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Discussion for Today[edit]
- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_June_5
June 5[edit]
NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]
Category:Sport in the Middle East[edit]
- Propose merging Category:Sport in the Middle East to Category:Sport in West Asia
- Propose renaming Category:Motorsport in the Middle East to Category:Motorsport in West Asia
- Propose renaming Category:Sports mass media in the Middle East to Category:Sports mass media in West Asia
- Propose renaming Category:Association football in the Middle East to Category:Association football in West Asia
- Propose renaming Category:International association football competitions in the Middle East to Category:International association football competitions in West Asia
- Propose renaming Category:International association football competitions in the Middle East by host to Category:International association football competitions in West Asia by host
- Nominator's rationale: West Asia and the Middle East largely overlap, so we do not need both categories. We already have categories for South Asia, Central Asia, East Asia, and Southeast Asia. Therefore, it makes more sense to keep the West Asia category and eliminate the "Middle East" category. This would align better with the existing geographic categorization. Aldij (talk) 08:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:American promotions teams and stables[edit]
- Nominator's rationale: Current title looks a little odd in my opinion. ★Trekker (talk) 07:33, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Ancient culture of Pakistan[edit]
- Nominator's rationale: delete, no other modern countries have a category like this, and the two articles are also quite unconnected. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Unlike such categories as Category:Prehistoric Pakistan, this is anachronistic on principle. We categorize ancient culture by culture or region, not by modern-day countries. Neither article even belongs — one article is a historical era, and the other is a site dated to the early modern period. They are already in other subcategories of the applicable parents. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Violence in Palestine (region)[edit]
- Nominator's rationale: There's another category created before. See Category:Violence in the Palestinian territories. -- Mhhossein talk 06:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Palestine (region) is not the same as the Palestinian territories. The Palestinian territories consist of only two parts of the Palestine region: the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. --Aldij (talk) 06:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Hinglaj Mata[edit]
- Propose merging Category:Hinglaj Mata to Category:Spiritual and religious images
- Nominator's rationale: merge, the category only contains a single image. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge The Hinglaj Mata Temple doesn't have any scope for a topic category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:33, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Added relevant article pages to the category-the main temple and another a fort. Krayon95 (talk) 06:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Hinglajgarh related to Hinglaj Mata Temple? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:09, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Romans from Africa[edit]
- Propose renaming Category:Romans from Africa to Category:Roman-era African people
- Propose renaming Category:Ancient Romans by province to Category:Roman-era people by province
- Nominator's rationale: rename, many of these people were not Romans. Aligning this with e.g. Category:Roman-era people by ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Ondrej Nepela Memorial templates[edit]
- Nominator's rationale: This is exactly the same as a recently deleted category from Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_27#Category:Nepela_Memorial, except that category was created in April 2024 and this one was created in 2008, and this category also includes only one template instead of four. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:45, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Amateur sport in Kazakhstan[edit]
- Propose deleting Category:Amateur sport in Kazakhstan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Football in the regions of Kazakhstan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Football in Kazakhstan by region (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose merging Category:Football clubs in Kazakhstan by region to Category:Football clubs in Kazakhstan
- Nominator's rationale: Numerous redundant category layers for a single region Mason (talk) 02:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, but honestly I would go two steps further and also nominate Category:Football clubs in Akmola Region and Category:Football clubs in Kokshetau for deletion (no need to merge, the two articles are already in the parents trees anyway). Marcocapelle (talk) 04:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Mosques in Libya by city[edit]
- Propose merging Category:Mosques in Libya by city to Category:Mosques by city and Category:Mosques in Libya
- Nominator's rationale: Dual Upmerge for now. There's no need to have a redundant category like this. Mason (talk) 02:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Welsh-speaking writers[edit]
- Propose merging Category:Welsh-speaking writers to Category:Welsh-language writers
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. I didn't speedy this because I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious. Mason (talk) 01:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Just delete, assuming the header is right about these are English-language writers. Being able to speak Welsh but not write in Welsh is a non-defining characteristic of a writer. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete What langauge one speaks is almost always a trivial characteristic. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. What language one speaks is not always a trivial characteristic, and certainly not when it's a minority language; that is a monoglot's view. However, I accept that there are few writers who speak but don't write in Welsh. What would make sense is to ensure that any entry that is in both categories is present in , which is the normal way of describing Welsh writers who do not speak/write in Welsh. The latter are, in a sense, the odd ones out. Please make sure this is listed at the relevant Wikiprojects. Deb (talk) 07:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Geography by former colony[edit]
- Propose merging Category:Geography by former colony to Category:Geography by former country
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. It's not necessary to distinguish this level of granularity of what kind of former entity it is (colony versus former country) Mason (talk) 00:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, or possibly delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. One could argue that a former colony is not a former country, it still exists but became meanwhile independent. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. Dutch East Indies is clearly a former country, therefore similar to Category:Geography of the Netherlands Antilles which is in Category:Geography by former country. --Aldij (talk) 09:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Category:Imperial Roman admirals[edit]
- Propose merging Category:Imperial Roman admirals to Category:Ancient Roman admirals
- Propose merging Category:Imperial Roman generals to Category:Ancient Roman generals
- Propose merging Category:Imperial Roman soldiers to Category:Ancient Roman soldiers
- Propose deleting Category:Imperial Roman military personnel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Merge/Purge (the bzyatine category). There's no need to create this parent category of Imperial Roman Foo. It just serves to isolate Byzantine and Ancient Roman child categories from other former nations. See Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_September_27#Category:Romans_who_received_the_grass_crown for a recent conversation about naming of Roman categories. Mason (talk) 00:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not strongly against this. Just as Category:Roman consuls is split into Category:Imperial Roman consuls and Category:Roman Republican consuls, so are the categories for military figures. If those categories need to be merged, the categories for consuls should be merged as well. If you feel the need to merge the consul categories as well, I won't argue with you any further. Kirschtaria (talk) 02:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am not against it as a matter of principle, just noting that the problem (if it is a problem) is far more widespread, e.g. Category:People from the Roman Empire and Category:Military of the Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)