Talk:1726 to 1730 in sports

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Baseball and Cricket[edit]

The Protoball Chronology 2.06, whose focus is base and ball games, has 388 entries before 1850. It has something on each of my ten new baseball listings and it is my proximate source. It is my only source for three new cricket listings.

  1. Does "match" in British English or at cricket mean a game scheduled in advance matching teams that represent clubs, counties, nations, etc? Or is every game a match?
  2. That might cover, second, what makes a match between counties (1709) or an international match (was 1844)? Do those mean representation of counties or nations? Or mean only contests between teams whose players are residents or natives of different counties or nations: residents of different nations in 1820 New York?
  3. What was MCC status in 1788? Did its voice become official only in retrospect? From another perspective, who recognized the rules of 1744?

--P64 08:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Every game in cricket and football is a match.
The 1709 and 1844 matches were between teams that represented the two counties and the two nations respectively. Don't know about 1820 New York but suspect that was residents only.
MCC was cricket's lawgiver in 1788. It evolved from the Noblemen's and Gentlemen's Club of 1744 and was effectively the same organisation. Its name from 1787 was merely a geographical consideration given its recent move to Marylebone. The Laws of 1744, 1774 and 1788 were widely, if not quite universally, recognised by all English cricketers. --Orrelly Man (talk) 08:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doc Adams Birth Date[edit]

I changed Doc Adams' birth date from 1 November, 1814 to 11 November, 1814. I got this information on page 14 of Early Innings by Dean A. Sullivan (1995) University of Nebraska Press ISBN 0-8032-4237-9 (cl). I see that the SABR biography (http://bioproj.sabr.org/bioproj.cfm?a=v&v=l&bid=639&pid=16943) on Adams lists 1 Nov so now I'm not sure which to go with. If someone wants to change it back, I certainly won't mind and apologize if I may have acted too hastily. --User:WrightWing

Doubleday Myth[edit]

Although the story sounds great, Doubleday could not have invented baseball because he was at West Point that summer. Baseball was not invented, it was standardized with rules set down by Cartwright.--Jojhutton (talk) 22:51, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Baseball undoubtedly evolved from much earlier games, especially stoolball. As you say, it was not invented any more than cricket or football were. --Orrelly Man (talk) 08:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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