Talk:1986 California Proposition 64

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Text of initiative[edit]

Why was the text removed? It's only a few sentences long, and since there are disputes over what the initiative would do, I thought that having the text available would be a useful reference. --Coleacanth (talk) 15:00, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source texts of any kind belong in Wikisource, and this text is already there. We're all intelligent enough to realize that the mere text of a law isn't sufficient to show what its effect would be.   Will Beback  talk  16:54, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Things that happened 20 years later[edit]

Picking one thing that happened twenty years after the events covered in this article is a form of original research. It is inappropriate to add facts from sources that don't mention LaRouche or Prop.64. Otherwise, we could fill the article with comparisons of the forecasts by LaRouche with the actual outcomes, etc. If there's a source that discusses later events in the context of Prop. 64 then that'd be appropriate to summarize.   Will Beback  talk  23:17, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

:I disagree. If it is notable to say that LaRouche accused the CDC of malfeasance because they didn't back universal testing (despite the fact that such testing was not part of Prop. 64,) then it is worth noting their response, even if it took them a long time. By including the issue of the CDC and testing, you made it relevant. Maybe we should invite outside comment. --Coleacanth (talk) 01:56, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're proposing to include material from a source that doesn't mention LaRouche or Prop. 64. Would it be appropriate to include statistics that show how incorrect the predictions made by the proponents? Information that shows statements about the transmission of AIDS were entirely wrong? And so on? Where do we draw the line?   Will Beback  talk  03:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

For future use.   Will Beback  talk 

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It is currently unclear from the page what, if anything, the impact of this initiative would have been.[edit]

The article currently reads:

Proponents argued that the measures would merely return AIDS to the list of communicable diseases under the public health laws.[...]Opponents characterized it as an effort to force HIV-positive individuals out of their jobs and into quarantine. Said Helen Miramontes, R.N., president of the California Nurses Association:
Health professionals believe that Proposition 64 would seriously hurt their ability to treat and find a cure for AIDS. Current medical efforts based on years of research will be undermined by the fear generated by this irrational proposition.

I, like many readers of Wikipedia, am not a Californian from the 1980s, so this makes no sense to me. AIDS is clearly a communicable disease, under the dictionary definition of "communicable". Was this a special type of communicable? Was there some special implication of this list under "the public health laws"? This may most easily be remedied with more extended quotes/summaries of the proponents' and opponents' arguments. I won't do this, but I'm flagging it here in case anyone else wants to take a crack. Dingolover6969 (talk) 11:39, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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