Talk:24th Annual Latin Grammy Awards

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controversy section is blatantly inappropriate[edit]

The controversy section does not belong. Firstly the Latin Grammys is for music in the Spanish and Portuguese languages regardless of what country the recording came out of. This includes artists from Spain and Portugal. For Wikipedia to be echoing op-Ed (opinion) pieces which are discriminatory towards artists from Spain and Portugal is wrong and it shows Wikipedia has having a clear political slant. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral and by suggesting this in the article violates Wikipedia’s own rules. Spain’s history with colonialism has nothing to do with hosting the awards in Spain and it has nothing to do with artists from Spain whose music has been nominated. Whoever put this content in here clearly has a political agenda and this article should not be promoting a political agenda. If it does then it is clear bias. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is neutral but censoring articles isn't neutrality. The section you take issue with is references and verifiable. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 21:07, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That’s not neutral. That is posting a political opinion and a racist view in an article. To suggest omission of Spaniards is racist. The suggestion is political too. Would Wikipedia allow material suggesting that Mexican artists be omitted from eligibility. I don’t think so. By allowing the content of that section, Wikipedia is pushing a clear political bias. And if we are going to talk about censorship, just look at the page for Lia Thomas as it does not allow anything that contradicts the bottom line which is supported. That page stinks of wokeness and now this page is being made about colonialism and pushing racism against Spanish and Portuguese. What does any of this have to do with music? It has nothing to do with it. But Wikipedia is neutral even though it allows op-Ed pieces which are filled with clear Marxist bias to be included. Why don’t we just call Wikipedia liberal propaganda? Because that’s what it is now. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 01:48, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read the second paragraph of the controversy section? It explains with references from reliable sources - such as Rolling Stone and Los Angeles Times - how the Latin Grammys CEO defended their decision of hosting this year's ceremony in Spain stating that Latin music has been defined by Spanish and Portuguese languages overall. It seems that actually you're the one trying to push your "clear political bias" and personal points of view to Wikipedia bringing up the Lia Thomas article/talk page, which is non-related to and does not correlate with the 24th Annual Latin Grammy Awards at all.

Please read WP:NOTANARCHY and WP:BATTLEGROUND.

All regards — WeNeverGoOutOfStyle (talk) 19:44, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, defined by Spanish and Portuguese language music, which means there is nothing controversial about including music by Spanish or Portuguese musicians. By Wikipedia making this a “controversy”, the page is therefor no longer neutral as it is amplifying populism and racial tension. --IndustryPlantCooper (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There was (still is) controversy about cultural appropriation of Latin American music genres by Spaniards, especially reggaeton, that was once stigmatized as the music of immigrants in Spain. ( See also:

• Latin Immigrants Face Growing Attacks in Spain (2008)

•Stereotypes, language, and race: Spaniards’ perception of Latin American immigrants (2023). )

This debate has been fueled over the years within the Latin Grammys and, even there is a big portion of Latin Americans that could not care less about this topic (myself included), it is undeniable the existence of said controversy, which is plentifully discussed and to be found through multiple sources.

The user who added information to the 'Seville as a host city' section did it neutrally, reporting with references the election and positive economic effects on the city, the "controversial" decision of the Latin Recording Academy and its defense response, without displaying "discrimination towards artists from Spain and Portugal" or a "Marxist bias".

— WeNeverGoOutOfStyle (talk) 20:21, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]