Talk:7th Armored Brigade (Israel)

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7th brigade tanks during Karameh battle (21-03-1968)[edit]

Can anybody give any info, what type of tanks were in that battle? In memoirs of Raful Eitan there were "old shermans" but soviet authors wrote about damaged and captured Centurion tank. Excuse me for my English, I'm Russian. Greetings from Siberia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.60.142.21 (talk) 11:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the most famous battle fought by the brigade was on the golan heights in october 1973.the brigade commander was avigdor ben-gal.he fought a magnificent mobile battle against the syrians. in a sense the brigade was lucky because the main syrian onslaught was on the barak brigade which operated in the southern part of the golan.it was decimated.ben-gal was able to prepare firing positions for his brigade before the war. his best battallion commander was avigdor kahalani who won the the most prestigous medal given by the israel defence forces.

in the six day war the brigade was commanded by shmuel gonen who also performed well.

other commanders of the brigade have been the following:

1 avigdor kahalani 2 gershon hacohen 3 ori orr? 4 israel tal 5 avraham adan 6 david elazar ? 7 shamir 8 haim laskov 9 yitzhak harel 1991-1993 10 shmuel gonen 1967

French AMX 13[edit]

  • "[...] During the Israeli Independence war of 1948, the 7th Brigade consisted of AMX-13 light tanks..."

This light tank destroyer came out of production lines in the early fifties only, and were massive delivered to Israel in 1956 for "Operarion kadesh" with the M50 "Super Sherman". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M50-Supersherman-latrun-1.jpg

Takima 18:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No references[edit]

The article, as so many of cultural vanity, has no references or sources. My previous flag that there were none was removed without comment, while it is plain by reading any version of the article that no references or sources of WP standard are provided.--SilasW (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not Important[edit]

A WP article should be judged as important or not first by whether it conforms to WP standards, if it does not it fails the test and is disqualified, and then by its subject. No matter how some may value the subject, an article with no fit source and reference cannot be classed as important. This one has been flagged as devoid of them for nearly a year. Cultural vanity cannot compensate for the omission.--SilasW (talk) 12:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You’re absolutely right that the page does not cite its sources and is in need of improvement. That is why its quality scale is defined as “Start Class”. The fact that it is far from perfect should not diminish its importance, however, because the declared goal of the project is to be “a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Israel on Wikipedia.” This page is part of the project in order that it can be improved; to call attention to its faults if you will. And as you said, it certainly needs improvement. Jimmy1988 (talk) 18:02, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Silas, actually the purpose of the importance scale is precisely for outlining topics that are important to a project, but their quality is not good. For example, the article Israeli new sheqel is top-importance for the Israel WikiProject, even though it's a fairly basic article. The idea is for the project to prioritize taking care of certain articles over others, and this article definitely needs attention and improvement. It's hard to attend everything though, we're just 3–4 regular editors working on thousands of Israel-related articles. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 21:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's it, isn't it? It is as matter of cultural vanity. By the way, I made no mention of a scale of importance. WP suggests before a new article is released the text and references should be assembled. It is nearly two years since this article was flagged as having no references, and one year since I flagged it again as some one found the truthful statement that it was unreferenced unpalatable and deleted it. The subject may be great and good and glorious but without valid references the article is pretty near worthless.--SilasW (talk) 15:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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