Talk:Abd al-Hamid Kishk

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This is excellant stuff Sir192, by the way. I knew nothing about this man.--Zleitzen 08:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jalal Kishk and Abdal-Hamid Kishk[edit]

I'm the one responsible for confusing the two Kishks and adding this section:

In the secular and non-Muslim world, Sheikh Kishk gained some notoriety for his ideas concerning sex between males. In contradiction of some other conservative Islamists, he argued that Islamic had no prescribed punishment for sex between men. He also concluded from his interpretation of the Qur'an that sex with youthful boys will be the reward for Muslims who control their desire for sodomy in this world.^[1] He is alleged to have told his audiences that "Muslims who entered paradise would enjoy eternal erections and the company of young boys draped in earrings and necklaces."^[2]

... which JK54 deleted. I appologize.

American journalist Judith Miller also confused the two in her book cited in the section I added. (Which is where I got the idea.)

I purpose adding a sentence on Gamal since other people may have read the miller book and also made this mistake.

This sentence would go at the end of the lead:

Sheikh Kishk is not to be confused with author and journalist Muhammad Jalal Al-Kishk (also Muhammad Galal Al-Kushk)^[3] who gained some noteriety for his ideas concerning the nature of erections and sex between males in heaven. ^[4] ^[5]

--BoogaLouie (talk) 14:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Desiring Arabs By Joseph Andoni Massad, p.203
^ Miller, Judith, God Has Ninety-Nine Names, A Touchstone Book, published by Simon & Schuster, 1997, pp. 26-27
^ Judith Miller confused the two in her book God Has Ninety-Nine Names, A Touchstone Book, published by Simon & Schuster, 1997, p.27: "Abdel Hamid Kishk, a blind sheikh ... had been telling his audiences that Muslims who entered paradise would enjoy eternal erections and the company of young boys draped in earrings and necklaces."
^ Desiring Arabs By Joseph Andoni Massad, p.203
^ Al-Quds Al-Arabi (London), May 11, 2001, quoted in http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=ia&ID=IA7401

It's a lie! (the Quran did never say that)[edit]

I am Muslim and I am here just to clarify the truth about the text which the user BoogaLouie brought here! What is assured in the Quran is that the believers who enter paradise will own serving boys to serve them only. Their only job is to be servants not to satisfy sexual desires. Islam completely denies the allowance of the practice of sodomy in paradise. I just wanted to comment about this issue because maybe some non-muslims read this and believe it. Caye11 (talk) 21:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence does not say the Quran said it. It says Muhammad Jalal Al-Kishk said it. --BoogaLouie (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sufism[edit]

The burden is on the person who makes a claim to provide the source, not the person challenging the claim. If User:GorgeCustersSabre is going to claim Kishk is a Sufi, he needs to provide a source saying that Kishk was a Sufi. Otherwise I can start adding Sufi to any article about a sunni muslim with no source required.Rajmaan (talk) 22:48, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I never initiated the claim he was a Sufi. Check the edit history. Best wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 03:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Desiring Arabs By Joseph Andoni Massad, p.203

[2] Miller, Judith, God Has Ninety-Nine Names, A Touchstone Book, published by Simon & Schuster, 1997, pp. 26-27

[3] Judith Miller confused the two in her book God Has Ninety-Nine Names, A Touchstone Book, published by Simon & Schuster, 1997, p.27: "Abdel Hamid Kishk, a blind sheikh ... had been telling his audiences that Muslims who entered paradise would enjoy eternal erections and the company of young boys draped in earrings and necklaces."

[4] Desiring Arabs By Joseph Andoni Massad, p.203

[5] Al-Quds Al-Arabi (London), May 11, 2001, quoted in http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=ia&ID=IA7401

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