Talk:Al-Ma'mun al-Bata'ihi
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Al-Ma'mun al-Bata'ihi is currently a World history good article nominee. Nominated by Constantine ✍ at 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria. Further reviews are welcome from any editor who has not contributed significantly to this article (or nominated it), and can be added to the review page, but the decision whether or not to list the article as a good article should be left to the first reviewer.
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Ma'mun Al-bataihi was a warrior vizir responsible for restoration of the Fatimid state after much loss of glory. Please do help by contributing. DistributorScientiae (talk) 13:30, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
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Please borrow references from the other language Wikipedia.DistributorScientiae (talk) 20:46, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
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Nominator: Cplakidas (talk · contribs) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: UndercoverClassicist (talk · contribs) 13:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
I know very little about this period (certainly much less than the nominator), so will focus on prose, MoS and so on, with content points where I can. UndercoverClassicist T·C 13:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is there any image at all that could be used to represent him -- I know portraits are unlikely, given the Islamic rules against them, but perhaps a signature or similar?
- the all-powerful vizier: suggest being a little more specific: was the vizir actually omnipotent?
- carried out a number of tax reforms: suggest cutting a number of (it could hardly have been otherwise). If the number is quite big, suggest several or many.
- Al-Bata'ihi also hunted down Nizari agents and sympathizers; the al-Hidaya al-Amiriyya, issued in 1122, rebuffed Nizari claims and affirmed the legitimacy of Musta'li Isma'ilism. : can we do anything in the lead to clarify a bit about who these people and what these beliefs are?
- In the Levant, attempts to take the offensive against the Crusaders failed, with the loss of Tyre and a naval defeat at the hands of the Venetian Crusade.: I'd put a date on these.
- AH 478 (1085/6): you might consider clarifying this to "1085–1856 CE", as we're explicitly working between different calendars here.
- nisba of 'al-Bata'ihi': I'd italicise rather than using single quotes, given the ' midway through the word.
- Could we explain nisba -- something like epithet?
- Hyphenate rags-to-riches as a compound modifier.
- when he died in 1118, the funeral prayer was read by caliph al-Amir (r. 1101–1130).: I would cut the regnal dates here: they're only really useful when we don't know anything about the date except that it happened during someone's reign, but here we have a more precise one (1118).
- ghulams: something odd has happened here: the s is not italicised and not part of the link.
- al-Bata'ihi ordered a tahwil ('conversion') ... al-Bata'ihi ordered a new cadastral survey (rawk): for GA, I don't have a particularly strong feeling about whether we should give the Arabic and bracket the English, or vice-versa, but we should probably be consistent. Some reviewers would advise sticking to English as far as possible in the main sentence.
- increased state income by 50,000 gold dinars: was that a lot? Can we have any idea of what it might have represented in real terms?
- the Jew Ibn al-Munajja: is his religion necessary or important here? Would strongly advise cutting or at the very least rephrasing so as not to use it as a noun in apposition, which can read as pejorative.
- The enterprise proved very costly, which led to the imprisonment of Ibn al-Munajja: passive voice seems odd here: presumably someone imprisoned him?
- caliph al-Amir: capitalise Caliph here.
- was also re-instituted, after almost a century where it had not been celebrated, as were : could cut where it had not been celebrated (you can't re-institute something that has been continuously celebrated)
- Fatimid-Ismai'ili: is this "Fatimid and Ismai'ili" or "that subset of Ismai'ili that was also Fatimid"? If the former, should be an endash.
- al-Bata'ihi scored a major success: suggest rephrasing per MOS:IDIOM.
- al-Imad citation: hyphen in title should be an endash.
Image review
- All images have alt text and good captions.
- File:The story of Cairo (1906) (14782234955).jpg: licence checks out.
- File:Cairo, moschea di al-aqmar, 04.JPG: Egypt has freedom of panorama, so all OK here.
- File:Fatimid dinar - al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah.jpg: technically speaking, needs a PD tag for the original work (the coin). I am honestly a little suspicious that it's genuinely the uploader's own work (it looks like an image used to display a coin on an auction website), but in the absence of a smoking gun I won't push this one.
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