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Ayub Shah Durrani languages[edit]

User:Khestwol, the Durranis had Persian as their primary language (at least after Timur Shah) and indeed Persian was the primary language of Afghanistan and the sole official language until 1936 (per [1].)
Here's a quote from William Darlrymple's book "Return of a King": "Like the Qizilbash, his own Sadozai dynasty were Persian-speaking and culturally Persianised and Timur Shah looked to his Timurid predecessors– ‘the Oriental Medici’ as Robert Byron dubbed them – for his cultural models."
5] Green, Nile (2019). "The Rise of New Imperial and National Languages (ca. 1800 – ca. 1930)". In Green, Nile (ed.). The Persianate World: The Frontiers of a Eurasian Lingua Franca. University of California Press. p. 42. ISBN 978-0520972100. “Despite Ahmad Shah Durrani's flirtations with founding a Pashto-based bureaucracy, when the capital moved from Qandahar to Kabul in 1772, Durrani and post-Durrani Afghanistan retained Persian as its chancery and chief court language.” Kailanmapper (talk) 18:23, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are right -- when they shifted the capital from Kandahar to Kabul, Dari was the first language and Pashto the second. However, we do need to mention both in the lede. So we can mention Dari first and Pashto second, that is alright, but we cannot delete Pashto altogether. Khestwol (talk) 18:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, but Afghan Persian wasn't called Dari until 1964. It should be referred to as just Persian since Dari is effectively a dialect of Persian. We wouldn't call anyone by the specific dialect of the language they spoke, we should use the more general language term. Kailanmapper (talk) 19:42, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]