Talk:Besarion Jughashvili

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Photo???[edit]

I am recommending to get off this "photo". Besarion Jughashvili was never photographed. This photo is his son Josef Stalin, but it is retextured, with more bears a darker skin.--62.245.80.143 (talk) 22:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This photo is the same that appears on Besarion's grave marker. Look at the photo of Beso's grave in the article.Kurzon (talk) 15:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vano or Ivanes?[edit]

The article states that Beso's father was called Vano, but Beso's middle name suggests it was actually Ivane. What do the sources say? Kurzon (talk) 16:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 07:57, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing now:

Montefiore writes – it would be good to introduce these and other authors with one word, e.g., "Historian Montefiore". Helps the reader.

I have noted who Monntefiore is in the "Family background and early life section" ("...with historian Simon Sebag Montefiore suggesting..."). Would that not be sufficient here?

the Georgian custom to partially pay for business with wine – I don't understand this, so not sure if it could be formulated more clearly?

Re-worded, hope that is better.

in January, 1900 Ioseb was arrested for the first time, on account of Jughashvili. When Jughashvili left Didi Lilo he was not removed from the village roles, so still owed taxes as a peasant from the region. – so he was arrested because his father owed taxes and a peasant from the region? Would it be possible to add why this was a crime?

Unfortunately there isn't any clarification in any of the sources regarding this, except that he was arrested.

everything else looks very good. Did a slight copy edit. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 07:57, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay, been away for a few days. Addressed things here, let me know what you think. Kaiser matias (talk) 23:04, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thank you very much. Passing now. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Death[edit]

Here it says that he died of illness. However his granddaughter, Svetlana Alliluyeva, writes in Twenty Letters to a Friend, p. 127, that he died "in a drunken brawl after being stabbed with a knife." — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrThe1And0nly (talk • contribs) 15:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MrThe1And0nly: Besarion Jughashvili's death in hospital is recorded in the hospital's records. Kurzon (talk) 15:18, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zaza Jughashvili[edit]

Birth and death year of Zaza Jughashvili (1798–1847, according to article) are awesome. If he was truly born in 1798, he could not participate in peasant uprisings. He was 6 or 7 years old at that moment.--KHMELNYTSKYIA (talk) 11:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]