Talk:Charles G. Dawes/Archives/2012

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I removed the citation need tag on the song. I was familiar with the Tommy Edwards version, of course, but didn't realize all those others had recorded it. Google does confirm them all, however: Manilow Elton John Richard Benton Morrision -- Fan-1967 18:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Songs

Ok. Fair enough, but do you think that we should include any sort of citation in the article to show readers that fact? --Wscc05 18:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I always thought it was a relatively well-known fact (only top-ten song ever written by a vice-president). I really don't think it needs citation. Anyone who wants to can google it. Any pop song gets tens of thousands of hits. Fan-1967 18:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

For a claim like #1 song, or "only song by a VP", it's always better to include a citation. That way a future editor won't question or challenge the claim, because it can be more easily verified. --Dhartung | Talk 22:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Incredibly, Allmusic reports twelve releases of the song this year already (three are Edwards, three are Manilow). It also has a history in jazz, first recorded by Louis Armstrong, perhaps before the lyrics were added. If anyone has a better reference for that it would help. --Dhartung | Talk 22:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

And the article for the song lists still other people. I guess it's more popular with singers than I was aware of. Fan-1967 00:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I missed out on this discussion. Here's an interesting article by David Marsh that goes into some detail about the history of the tune. http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/~hayward/van/reviews/allinthegame.html - Maggie (that's right, Dhartung - the Jorn Barger Maggie) --64.229.64.62 00:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hatfield's book

A few weeks ago, someone took off my piece about Dawes' Vice Presidency. I just put it back with attributions. It seems that mosts of the previous article was cribbed from that same source.

Charles G. Dawes music

Did Nathaniel Adams Coles use Charles G. Dawes of his 1912 composition "Melody in A Major," actually Nathaniel Adams Coles started only in the mid thirties ? surely not when he was the Vice President as he had not startedPharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Um, try actually reading the paragraph. All of the artists listed recorded It's All In The Game long after Dawes's Vice-Presidency. The song wasn't even written until several months after Dawes's death. That Nat King Cole recorded it should be no more surprising than that Cliff Richard and Brook Benton (in between whose names the IP added Cole's) did the same. -- Zsero (talk) 17:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Why isn't his Nobel Peace Prize mentioned?

Vice President Dawes received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1925 for his work on the "Dawes Plan" which was a new method of having the losers of WWI pay their reparations. It failed however and was replaced by a different plan in 1929.PonileExpress (talk) 22:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

It's mentioned in the first paragraph, a couple of times in the text, and in the apparatus (templates, biblio, etc.) If someone like user:PonileExpress, who wrote the above query, wants to add or explain something about the Prize or the Dawes Plan (which does have a separate article), he or she is perfectly free to so (it's a free encyclopedia). —— Shakescene (talk) 01:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry my bad, I totally missed that one.PonileExpress (talk) 22:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC)