Talk:City of federal subject significance

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Intro says: "City of federal subject significance is an umbrella term used to refer to a type of an administrative division of a federal subject of Russia which is equal in status to a district but is organized around a large city"

Ezhiki says: "in some oblasts the term "town of oblast significance" refers to an inhabited locality type, in others—to a type of an administrative division (equal in status to a district), and in others yet it is used in both senses."[1]

Assuming city=town=gorod - what is true? Bogdan Nagachop (talk) 19:22, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both statements are true :) This article is meant to describe the administrative-territorial division concept, which is why the lead says what is says. The inhabited locality type aspect should be covered in the types of inhabited localities in Russia article, but currently isn't. Does this answer your question?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 21, 2011; 19:32 (UTC)

I've moved the page back per lack of response, but am open to further discussion.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 16, 2011; 14:12 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress which affects this page. Please participate at Talk:Federal subjects of Russia - Requested move and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 18:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

City with the jurisdictional territory[edit]

Is there a justification for the definitive article "the"? Derianus (talk) 01:16, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Town in article[edit]

Any reason to use "town", e.g. in Gremyachinskoye Urban Settlement, while the article about the designations is called "City of federal subject significance" and uses "city" for "gorod"? Derianus (talk) 01:21, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RUSSIA normally distinguishes the two terms by the locality's size. This arbitrary cut-off is set at 100,000 (i.e., anything above is a "city" and anything below is a "town"). The same principle is being transferred to the terms dealing with the administrative divisions (using "city of krai significance" makes little sense when the division is centered around a "town").—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 17, 2014; 11:59 (UTC)

It makes little sense to WP:OR-invent a split. Derianus (talk) 02:25, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is not OR but simply a matter of style. We are dealing with descriptive terms here, and those are traditionally not considered to be OR.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 20, 2014; 11:52 (UTC)

Clarification[edit]

The intro is not clear - is the term only used in the Russian context, or does it apply in other countries? Jackiespeel (talk) 19:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is Russia-specific (since the federal subjects are uniquely a Russian concept), but note that this isn't, strictly speaking, a "term". The title of this article is a descriptive one. The concept exists in most of the federal subjects but is known under a variety of different names (a list of which is included). The underlying principle is the same everywhere (so it makes no sense to create a separate article for each individual term), although some implementation details differ from one federal subject to another. The use of a descriptive title is necessitated by the absence of one unifying term (even in Russian). Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 23, 2017; 13:26 (UTC)