Talk:Connie Converse

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What does this mean?[edit]

What does the following mean?

By 1973, Connie was burnt out and depressed. Her colleagues and friends pooled their money to finance a six-months' trip to England for her. The journal, which meant so much to her, had left Michigan for Yale at the end of 1972, after being "auctioned off" without her knowledge. She was facing the need for major surgery.

So she had a journal, it somehow left for Yale in 1972,and it was auctioned off without her knowledge? I have read this article and it says nothing about her keeping a journal, or one being auctioned off.

Also I am removing two of the external links for this article, one link goes to Connie converse dot com,which is just a page with her cd for sale and the other link is cdbaby, which lists her cd for sale again. Commercial links for products are not allowed on Wikipedia.--BeckiGreen (talk) 18:08, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I read that wrong at first, it's confusing phrasing - but they're referaing to the "Journal of Conflict Resolution" (journal as in acidemic/similar publication) she's mentioned as having worked at earlier, in the previous sentence. 109.224.137.121 (talk) 01:05, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And where does the surgery reference come form? The cited article doesn't mention her being sick or having needed treatment, etc. Dnllnd (talk) 14:56, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deitch?[edit]

Need to explain early in the article who Deitch is and how he became connected to Converse. He is first mentioned as follows:

Converse's only known public performance was a brief television appearance in 1954 on The Morning Show on CBS with Walter Cronkite, which Deitch helped to arrange.

He's then mentioned twice more without explanation, and finally (under Legacy) in reference to recordings he made without saying what those recordings were. --Theodore Kloba (☎) 19:48, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The earliest singer-songwriter?[edit]

Surely people like Woody Guthrie, Robert Johnson or even Blind Lemon Jefferson (died in 1929) were largely singer-songwriters, even if the term had not yet appeared in their day. They wrote highly original songs, rooted in popular/folk music, and performed them, often solo accompanying themselves on guitar. The genre did not begin with Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash and Joan Baez! 188.150.64.57 (talk) 00:25, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Her page uses a few instances of hyperbole, which I suppose isn’t uncommon with people who completely disappear as they become somewhat mythical and the truth gets skewed. Important that contributors don’t lose track of reality. I would suggest we take this line out completely. Thanks --Jkaharper (talk) 00:43, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Citation need for Phil's speculation on death[edit]

Citation #6 that is given as a reference for "Philip suspects she may have taken her own life—he specifically thinks she may have driven her car into a body of water—but her actual fate remains unknown." does not in fact contain any reference to Phillip's speculation that she drove into a body of water. Philglau (talk) 22:34, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Living/disappeared status[edit]

This subject disappeared so long ago now. Hasn't she been declared legally dead, and hence can we move her out of the Possibly Living People category? In the UK she would have been declared legally by now but I'm unsure of how it works in the States for disappeared persons. Can anyone else please advise? Thanks. Jkaharper (talk) 13:42, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A person can only be declared dead in absentia — legally dead — if there is evidence of them having passed away. There seems to be evidence, at least in the 1980s, that Connie Converse was still alive. But since the 1980s, there has been no word on Ms. Converse living/dead status. Per WP:BDP, this status can change from "disappeared" to "deceased" beginning on August 6th 2039, on her 115th birthday. Butterscotch5 (talk) 21:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]