Talk:Core-and-veneer

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Pinging the article creator User:Bejnar: is the File:Chaco_Canyon_ruins.JPG photo used here a correct example? The article describes how two parallel walls are constructed and the core between them is filled with rubble or other infill, but that doesn't look like what's happened here, where all the stones in the walls are neatly horizontal, as if built entirely from the bottom up, and all from the same quality stone. Or would the space with the doorway between the two walls shown have been full of rubble?

I'd expect to see something more like the bottom left diagram in File:Spons' dictionary of engineering, civil, mechanical, military, and naval; with technical terms in French, German, Italian, and Spanish (1871) (14576819680).jpg. --Lord Belbury (talk) 11:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agree, the current photo of Chacoan ruins does not show the cor-and veneer technique. The Anasazi did use the core-and-veneer technique at Chaco and elsewhere, but it is not shown in the image provided here. (Note: I did not add that photo.) The different types at Chaco are shown in illustration at page 90 of Chaco and After in the Northern San Juan: Excavations at the Bluff Great House by Catherine M. Cameron. See also Operative Masonry by Shaw (1832) --Bejnar (talk) 15:29, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The history suggests you did add it, but perhaps you'd copied the content from another article. But no matter. Would File:Spons' dictionary of engineering, civil, mechanical, military, and naval; with technical terms in French, German, Italian, and Spanish (1871) (14576819680).jpg be a fair illustration to use here, if cropped to the bottom left picture? --Lord Belbury (talk) 16:58, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That 2014 edit was a restoration of the existing article after a failed redirect. The lower left image you mention is better than the present one, but it is pretty poor. It also shows a "bond beam" which would need to be explained. Many core-and--veneer walls don't use the "bond beam" technology. The example here is more to the point, but is copyrighted. (From Prehistoric Cultures of North America by S. Crouthamel) See also no longer copyrighted [here https://books.google.com/books?id=WZ0aAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA3-PA97] and [here https://books.google.com/books?id=-KMNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA161] (back up one page, figure 3) --Bejnar (talk) 22:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]