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Update[edit]

Audio rework

https://www.pcgamer.com/counter-strike-2-introduces-the-feature-weve-all-been-waiting-for-grenade-inspections/

More guns

https://www.pcgamer.com/counter-strike-2-loadout-update-takes-cues-from-valorant-and-might-indicate-more-guns-are-coming-over-time/

Half life is Canon

https://www.pcgamer.com/here-we-go-again-counter-strike-2-has-a-half-life-reference/ Baratiiman (talk) 15:55, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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Mike Morasky citation[edit]

The source for the claim that Mike Morasky is the composer for the game is this tweet [1], where Mike just quote tweets the CS2 account with the words "Dig it!" - which doesn't really prove anything. I know he probably did compose it, so I won't delete it from the article, but do we have a better source for this? I just had a look and couldn't anything reliable, just stuff like IMDB (user generated, so that claim was probably based off this article) and random unofficial steam workshop posts. BugGhost🪲👻 20:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There were a couple game production credits that were added based on vague tweets when this article was first made, so I'd support removing it until we have more confirmation. Alyo (chat·edits) 14:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"CS2" redirect[edit]

Do you think it's a good idea to get CS2 to redirect directly to this article?

I've just changed CS2 to redirect to CS2 (disambiguation), because previously it went to carbon disulfide (CS2), even though nearly all the other topics listed CS2 disambiguation page get more traffic than it [2].

Seeing as Counter-Strike 2 is very commonly referred to as "CS2", and it gets more wikitraffic than the other 'CS2' articles, should CS2 redirect directly to the Counter-Strike 2 article instead of the disambiguation? Search engine results already overwhelmingly point to Counter-Strike 2 when searching "CS2".

I'm asking rather than doing because I don't know the politics or the process involved around "claiming" redirects like this, or what is the method for deciding priority (still pretty new to editing) so wanted a second opinion before meddling further. BugGhost🪲👻 18:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly agree with retargeting CS2 to the disambiguation page, but for the second part of your question it might be worth starting an WP:RFD to get some input from editors who more commonly work with redirects? Because there isn't an unambiguously clear primary topic (even if counter-strike gets a plurality of the hits), your current solution might be best. Alyo (chat·edits) 20:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks ok - I wasn't aware of WP:RFD. I just reverted my changes to the CS2 redirect and launched a RFD about it in order to get the redirect specialists involved [3] - I wasn't certain I did it right the first time (wasn't sure if CS2 was meant to "become" CS2 (disambiguation) or if it was just meant to point to it). BugGhost🪲👻 21:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, you did pretty much exactly what I would have :) Alyo (chat·edits) 04:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Monetization" section[edit]

Yesterday I added a Monetization section (cited), but its since been largely reverted, with a small portion of the info being moved to a new Revenue subheading. Just wanted to discuss what other editors think about the inclusion of a section like this.

Main points in the section were:

  • Revenue model (F2P and Prime)
  • Drops/weapons cases
  • Marketplace
  • Weapon skins/knives/etc surprisingly high prices
  • Valve's estimated 2023 revenue from keys and trade commissions

These points have now been removed from the article, apart from the last one. This section was intended to be a jumping off point in order to discuss related topics such as:

  • Countries passing anti gambling laws that prevent weapons cases in Counter-Strike being opened, including Valve being fined in Austria over it: [4]
  • Skins gambling and it's alleged connection to real gambling, including regulation issues and claims that it can be used by children [5] [6][7]
  • The care package drops leading to the "case farming" bots phenomena [8], a Valve-acknowledged issue [9]

My view is that the skins economy that revolves around CS2 is too huge and complex to just put in what is currently in the Revenue section, and it's had enough sustained coverage to warrant some discussion on this article. A simple Revenue section would make sense for a game with a more straightforward monetization model (say, Elden Ring, which just earns money through copies sold), but it's too reductive for CS2. Seeing as it was reverted just wanted to get other view points on this. BugGhost🪲👻 09:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @IDKFA-93 in case they missed this BugGhost🪲👻 11:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]