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I have recently been using the term "counting coup" to describe the bureaucractic practice of "counting numbers" versus "giving services".

Why are you telling us this information? Are you asserting that this usage is important enough to add to the article? -Will Beback 00:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can a coup stick be acoustic? :-) *Dan T.* 19:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

coup stick[edit]

This article could really use a photo or illustration of a coup stick. Dlabtot (talk) 19:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flew the coup[edit]

What's the origin of the term? IIRC, it's French (per coup, duh...). TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 09:17, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You want "flew the COOP" http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/fly+the+coop — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.181.7 (talk) 17:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

•sigh• See irony. The Unknown Comic ^{you talkin' to me?} 18:23, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possible copyvio[edit]

Several paragraphs of this article are identical to paragraphs here: [1] I'm hesitant to tag this article though because these days it's hard to tell where the text originated, Wikipedia or another site. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 20:59, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Another meaning for "counting coup"?[edit]

Greetings:

Some years ago, I read 4-5 books about the Iroquois Confederacy, Joseph Brant, Molly Brant, and William Johnson. Somewhere in at least one of the books was written that the nations of the Iroquois Confederacy used the practice of counting coup to smooth over anger within a group. If someone was accidently killed somehow (not in a battle), the person responsible would transfer goods to the victim's family by way of compensation. It seems analogous to winning a wrongful death court case today and being awarded a large settlement.

Am I remembering this fairly well? It was definitely about the Iroquois. The information I see so far, net-wise, involves plains warriors and battle behavior between plains nations, not within groups.

[Also, was scalping (which the nations of the Iroquois practiced) some type of counting coup?]

Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 21:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]