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Datings[edit]

The "They predate Linear A by about a century" in the first paragraph is in contrast with the table below, "Time span", by the Chronology part. I propose a change to the "they predate" phrase.

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I'm deleting the Ancient Egyptian banner, as this article is not part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Egypt. Evertype 08:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Illustration[edit]

The "green jasper seal with Cretan hieroglyphs. 1800 BC" needs a bit more data about it to be added.

The information attached to the photo is:

Description English: ancient seal, original Deutsch: antike Plombe, original Date 2010 Source Own work Author Ingo Pini

... and nothing more. No museum location, excavation information etc.

If it is in fact the real own work of Ingo Pini, then Ingo is to be commended not only for the workmanship of this artefact, but also for valuable contribution to the corpus of recorded human knowledge over the last 3,800 years!

But ... does "Ingo Pini" sound like a Minoan name to you? 101.117.85.4 (talk) 06:51, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I looked him up; Ingo Pini is a real person, and he's a published scholar in this area. See de:Ingo Pini. Y-barton (talk) 16:35, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguity[edit]

'... continued in parallel for most of their history' - the Cretans or their script? Jackiespeel (talk) 10:50, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Origins[edit]

According to the article Minoan civilization, the Cretan pictographs were influenced by the Egyptian hieroglyphs, and the citation is this book: Hermann Bengtson: Griechische Geschichte, C.H. Beck, München, 2002. 9th Edition. ISBN 340602503X. pp.8–15. I want to ask if the source is strong enough to incorporate this theory into the article. Γαλαδριήλ (talk) 09:18, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Watching Cat[edit]

If the Minoans were that influenced by Egyptian heiroglyphs, then the cat's head on the left of the seal could be a determinative. If that is the case, then the glyphs are the name of an establishment of some sort. Since the cat head has huge eyes, we can then assume that the name translates roughly to the Watching (or Staring) Cat.Glammazon (talk) 00:57, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1. add photos of all fragments, 2. design all the characters anew and with clarity[edit]

Seal orientation?[edit]

Is there a reason the 'green jasper seal' has that horizontal orientation? It looks like it should be rotated by 90º, to put the cat's head at the bottom, the large staring eye in the middle, and the thing that looks like an axe head at the top.2001:8A0:F7FC:DC00:3095:C942:FFC2:E89D (talk) 03:59, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Short answer, no. Or, that's what the photographer chose to do. Johnbod (talk) 15:45, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]