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Portuguese

142,000 Portuguese residents, and only 90,000 speak portuguese language? Makes no sense, specially considering that we are talking about a recent immigrant comunnity... - signed by anon IP

Albanians in Switzerland

Here I will put same question as in Switzerland article:
I've heard from confidential source that Albanians are most numerous ethnic group in Switzerland after Swiss now. Is that true? Maybe data mentioned here are old.
--Čikić Dragan (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Tibetan refugees in Switzerland

The article is well-done and highly accurate, but there wasn't any reference to a community of Tibetans in Switzerland, about 20,000 moved into the country after the communist Chinese takeover of their country in the 1950's. Just to let everyone know not all ethnic groups originating outside of Europe living in Switzerland has been mentioned, most notably the Tibetans. + 71.102.10.169 (talk) 10:51, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ex Yugoslavs

I simply wonder how some people dare to call a group of different nationalities Exyugoslavs. Yugoslavs made up around 1% of Yugoslavia's nationalities during it's existance. This writen in the article is a total misinterpretation of the term. Serbo-Croatian language also does not exist in no country of "Former Yugoslavia" but is spoken in Switzerland - interesting fact!! Just for the record that majority of Croatians can not read a single word of Serbian language because they do not know to read the serbian cyrilic alphabet. Using term Former-Yugoslavians is equivalent to using the term Ex-Nazi-German teritorries for Germany, Poland, Czech R. and Austria - not sth. to use realy. Lousy article and a bad author thath wrote this down. Hammer of Habsburg (talk) 12:12, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

You are simply illustrating your own political prejudices. In English, "Yugoslav" may or may not refer to a splinter ethnic group; I'd be intrigued to hear more about this specialized meaning. But it's in undisputed use for the country that existed for much of the century. A better comparison than the WWII one would be "former Soviet republic", another common term that everyone understands, quite independent of unredeemed historical crimes.

As for Serbo-Croatian, I am afraid that linguists will disagree with you. The differences are small enough that it is considered one language (called pluricentric in the Wikipedia article). Writing systems are not considered determinative for such matters. It is characteristic of political movements to find or exaggerate linguistic differences where there are few or none. An interesting comparison is Hindi and Urdu. For an example running in the opposite direction see Chinese, where a single writing system and a desire for political unity tend to obscure the fact that the languages as varied as French, Italian and Spanish. But there are also quite definitive and well-sourced statements at Serbo-Croatian that run counter to your position. If you would like to exchange ideas on the matter, you could post your linguistic ideas on a blog such as Language Log (as a comment on an appropriate article; perhaps the matter has already been discussed there). The commenters there are courteous and urbane and they might explain some of these things. 178.38.111.40 (talk) 23:24, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

"In English, "Yugoslav" may or may not refer to a splinter ethnic group; I'd be intrigued to hear more about this specialized meaning." - Thats not an argument. I can doubt every single word you use and ask for "specialized meaning". I guess words like culture, and what is an ethnic group is difficult to understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.233.35.90 (talk) 16:35, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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