Talk:Ernst von Salomon

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Jewish[edit]

I've read before that Salomon was an ethnic Jew, the von in his name was acquired through the military service of his father. Is there any truth to this?

He neither considered himself Jewish nor was he considered Jewish by Nazi authorities - but his spouse, Ille Gotthelft (who by the way was not harmed), was Jewish. 217.236.240.138 19:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ernst von Salomon's book
According to posts on a pro-Nazi forum (but seems to have some valid info)
Klemens von Klemperer (Germany's new conservatism; its history and dilemma in the twentieth century, Princeton University Press, Princeton, 1957) cites the von Salomon family as being emblematic of how close the radical movements were in Weimar Germany.
While Franz von Pfeffer, something of a monarchist, became OSAF, his cousin Ernst von Salomon became involved first with the Freikorps, then Organization Consul (where he was involved in Feme Murders), and finally the terroristic wing of the Landvolk, and Ernst’s brother Bruno ended up in the KPD.
Another example of the fluidity of movement between the radical socialist movements is shown by the Ulm Garrison incident wherein three young Reichswehr junior officers, Liudin, Scheringer and Wendt were arrested in February of 1930 on charges of spreading Nazi ideology in the Army. This became a cause célèbre, the Führer even coming to testify at their trial that the Nazi movement was one of strict legality, though despite this the three were convicted and sent to prison. Upon their release from prison in 1931, however, two of the young officers deserted the NSDAP, Lt. Scheringer for the KPD and Lt. Wendt for Otto Strasser’s Black front.
In a follow-up post on the same site: Franz Felix Pfeffer von Salomon died in Munich on the 12.04. 1968.
פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 12:32, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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E.v.S. was not married to Ille Gotthelft but they pretended to be married. The wife of E.v.S. was informed and tolerated this fiction to protect Ille Gotthelft from Nazi persecution. --R. Reinert (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Orthographic and translation problems?[edit]

  • Anyone who judges Freikorpskämpfers by the standards of the civilization it was their task to help destroy is utilizing the standards of the enemy.
  • The blood surging through our veins was full of a wild demand for revenge and adventure and danger…We were a band of fighters drunk with all the passions of the world; full of lust, exultant in action. What we wanted, we did not know. And what we knew, we did not want! War and adventure, excitement and destruction. An indefinable, surging force welled up from every part of our being and flayed us onward. ("Die Geächteten", 1930)
  • It was no inspired, controversial political idea that spurred us to protest. The actual cause lay simply in despair, which is never articulate. ("Die Geächteten", 1930)

Severe Far-Right Bias[edit]

The Polish insurgents in Upper Silesia are dubbed "terrorists" (their obgectives and methods were not above reproach but "terrorists"?!, Freiforps' conduct was far more criminal), the Weimar era courts are supposedly very hostile to right wing "activists" while being sympathetic to left wing defendents (in truth the very opposite was true) and deNazification is "social engineering". I disposed of some of these lapses. Hopefully they will not crop up again.Soz101 21:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC) 21:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Autobigraphy[edit]

What ist this book The Answer? I think it does not exist. What I remmeber is an episode, a chapter in the Fragebogen about the mistreatment, plus I suppose, that the broken frontteeth of german soldiers are true, a kind of humilation. -- Roomsixhu (talk) 17:17, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The title of the English translation is: 'The answers: of Ernst von Salomon to the 131 questions in the Allied Military Government "Fragebogen"' (Putnam, 1954 - 546 pages). He describes, how he and his partner Ille Gotthelft were mistreated when delivered into the internment camp of Natternberg (Bavaria) and later on. --R. Reinert (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Roomsixhu, you make a valid point which needs to be corrected in the article! Ernst von Solomon wrote an autobiographical book titled "Der Fragebogen" which in English translates to "The Questionnaire". It was published in German in Germany in 1951. Later, in 1954, an Englishman translated the book, titling it "The Answer", which was published in 1954 by Putnam in England and the U.S. The article jumbles this up badly. I will try to correct it now.--FeralOink (talk) 14:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1945-46 detention -- in Rheinwiesenlager?[edit]

As a PoW in 1945-46, was Ernst von Salomon held in one of the notorious Rheinwiesenlager? That might explain some of the anti-Americanism in his Fragenbogen, even if it doesn't excuse his general obliviousness about Nazi crimes. Hcunn (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neither E.v.S. nor Ille Gotthelft were PoWs. They were arrested only in Bavarian internment camps, not in one of the Rheinwiesenlager. As "The Answers" deals with the questionnaire and gives autobiographic answers, there was no reason to comment Nazi crimes and no "obliviousness". In the book "Das Schicksal des A.D.", published in 1960, he describes the Nazi tortures in the concentration camp Buchenwald. --R. Reinert (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Questionnaire and The Answer are the same![edit]

In 1951, Ernst von Salomon wrote an autobiographical book titled "Der Fragebogen" which in English translates to "The Questionnaire". See here MODERN GERMAN ROMANTICISM - A Ruinous Obsession via The American Interest, 29 March 2020:

"To the extent that the war was discussed, it was in biographical works such as Ernst von Solomon’s Der Fragebogen (The Questionnaire, 1951). The questionnaire was an Allied standard form where Germans were ordered to disclose their relationship with Nazism. Solomon’s answer is a 500-page long book. This conservative author’s answer can be summarized as follows..."

Later, in 1954, an Englishman translated the book, titling it "The Answer", which was published by Putnam in England and the U.S. The article muddles this. I will try to correct it now.--FeralOink (talk) 14:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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