Talk:Flutina

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German site[edit]

hi, theo!

pleas have a lool at the german site about history and proven facts. This flutina is realy a nice example of a early instrument in the way demin made his modells.

i did surch thogh all docoments agein and it is a fact that in paris demians instrument war copped, but by the tine of 1831 in vienna demiam ollready solled differnt types of insrumens. one was a 2 row ditonic beside the one row with more or less buttons. a other one was a 2 row chromatc neary the same as the one the cooped in paris.

the pleas correct the date abut Buchmann there is much written on he german site abut it, i proved all fakts. It is impossibe that he did make anything like a Harmonika before 1833. Thre are a lot of hand writing of corespndace between him and his father and the talk aboutall kind of work and th first time the talk abut reeds is in the jear 1828. In the age of 16 years he viseted London with his fahther and after this (1821) born 17. Juni 1805

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Buschmann born 17. Juni 1805

And then the piano akkordeon (Harmonika was first made by http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Haeckl in the jear of 1818. had pianokeys and was held in the left hand. but with one set of reeds only on pusch. no bass.

please ols se history about harmonium:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonium

--Jpascher 16:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

Johann, I'm not sure if all the history you added really belongs here. Maybe it should be on the Accordion page instead. OK, Theo is your dictions! --Jpascher 09:54, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The naming of instruments is particularly tricky; keep in mind that this is the English-language Wikipedia, so we should generally keep to the instrument that is known as "Flutina" in Elglish-speaking countries. --Theodore Kloba 15:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I know from the American few point it me well be interesting to few the "Flutina" as it was in use or how it effected the time, would be nice to reed more about this too!

For me the Picture on the page is the main interest and it is a very nice example of a early France product. Even the decor paper on the bellows is the same as on some other models i have seen. It is defiantly one of earliest models. It also shows well the difference to the Demian construction. The had also the removable part (Soundboard) with the reeds. Unfortunately Demian Instruments did not survive, we know it only from pictures with bad quality because the are just printed in old newspapers, the drawings in the patent and the one Instrument that Paola Soprani copped very late around 1870 and (can be seen in the museum in Castelfidardo) We have many other early examples in the museum in Vienna, but all are made by some other makers. This Models in Vienna Museum are even more different to Demans Instrument as the “Flutina” on the picture. But the all ware melody instruments and war very small and light weight. The differ a lot because all the makers die get some patent for a new invention on it. In most cases this is only in respect how the key ware made. One of this Instrument has a early Reed block removable with the keyboard in one part. All the others stay with the soundboard removable and the reeds mounted flat inside the box. The pencilcase treble part on the “Flutina” is absolute the same as on Demian instruments, only the arranging of the second row levers is typical for France models. Later France models had a different finish and appearance but the way the flaps ware arranged around the keyboard also on the backside was the same up to 1880. (on bigger models). May even be, that it influenced the Bajan to some extent because the put the keyboards also a bit toward the middle of the treble side. So for me it is more the history of France accordion, but from your few point it my be different. --Jpascher 09:54, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of Citations[edit]

This article contains no citations except for a vague link to a German Wikipedia page. I added a tag for now, until a satisfactory number of citations are added. Gravensilv (talk) 16:13, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]