Talk:Hurricanes Abby and Celeste

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January 31, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
November 3, 2013	Good topic candidate	Not promoted

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Reference formatting non-uniform[edit]

This is bound to come up at GAN, but make sure the publishing dates are in a uniform location throughout your referencing. I see two formats being used in this regard. One should be chosen throughout the article. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Abby (1960)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I'll review this article. This will be all about prose issues. I was nice and took care of the various referencing issues.

There is an error in the lead. Tropical depressions do not skip the tropical storm stage...they just quickly move through it. I'll look over the article more carefully for more issues.
Dramatically weakened (in the 5th sentence of the lead) is not a phrase used in an encyclopedia. Reword it.
Combine the lead into one paragraph. There's no point in having one sentence dangle at the end, all by itself.
Add wikilinks for the first occurrence of Caribbean Sea, weather station, maximum sustained wind, Guatemala, and Mexico.

You have until midday on February 7 to address these issues, or the article will be failed. Reviewer: Thegreatdr (talk) 15:19, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Finished. Anything else? Otherwise, thank you for the review!--12george1 (talk) 18:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, that's it. I'm passing the article. Look through my edits reference-wise to see what I did, because other reviewers may not help you out with the referencing. The AP is frequently the author of newspaper articles. If it starts with AP in parenthesis, they're the author. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:46, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 25 May 2024[edit]

It has been proposed in this section that Hurricanes Abby and Celeste be renamed and moved to Hurricane Abby (1960).

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Hurricanes Abby and Celeste → Hurricane Abby (1960) – The storm page was moved earlier this year to accommodate Hurricane Celeste, a storm that was not notable at all, without any discussion at all regarding it. The reason given was solely because Celeste directly formed from the remnants of Abby. I think this is a poor excuse to move an storm article like this because for example, you have Hurricane Francelia, of which its remnants contributed to Hurricane Glenda in the Eastern Pacific, and it only mentions that idea once throughout the article without any other content of the other hurricane. Plus, there is not enough information on Celeste to warrant a merge of both storms, as the overwhelming majority of the article talks about Abby. What I'm saying is, just because a storm is connected to another does not automatically mean to have both storms into one article, and this is why the move was carried out prematurely. I'm doing this not only because I think the move should be reverted, but because I want to see if there actually even is support for the current article name. ~ Sandy 14156 (Talk ✉️) 21:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The move was done by a now-blocked user, for what it's worth. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The two systems-one article setup only applies in two cases: when the low-level circulation center survives the crossing (e.g. Cesar-Douglas, Irene-Olivia, Joan-Miriam), in line with NHC after they stopped renaming crossover storms; or when the impacts of two associated systems overlap and cannot be distinguished (e.g. Judy and Kevin, Amanda and Cristobal). Neither apply here: impacts are solely from Abby, and the claim of direct regeneration is questionable (the MWR source only states "some remnants" of Abby contributed to the formation of Celeste). ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 13:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]