Talk:Indie folk/Archive 1

Archive 1

Relation to folk music?

I'm a little confused. Does the folk in "indie folk" simply mean "uses an acoustic instrument on occasion" or is something else tying all these artists to folk traditions? Can someone find articles linking the listed artists and their identification with the alleged genre? Just because something exists a tag on Last.fm doesn't mean it deserves its own Wikipedia article. 72.86.110.219 (talk) 19:06, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Lo-fi

A lot of these artists artists have recorded in a lo-fi manner at some stage in their existance - Bright Eyes,Elliot Smith,Mountain Goats,Beck,Lou Barlow,Neutral Milk Hotel... You might wanna put in somewhere how Lo-fi is a strong characteristic of this genre.

--86.43.217.52 (talk) 09:49, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

"Indie" Folk

Surely all folk is independent. Is there a genre of mainstream folk that we need to be differentiating from? 86.163.37.151 (talk) 16:15, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

There can be a distinction made between indie folk bands roughly by decades. 90's was different to 00's.

In the 00's & 10's in U.K There was a significant rise in Folk rock playing with indie rock bands. Laura Marling, Mumford and Sons, Noah and the Whale, Johhny Flynn, Moulettes, Mystery Jets, Patrick Wolf, Frank Turner, Jamie T, Sons of Noel and Adrian all share a similar history, same members or featured on each others records. They all toured with each other and bands like Beirut, Adem, Broken Social Scene. They all share indie rock cross over with acoustic instrumentation and all began with independent releases promoting their own nights. Communion Records came out of that, Moulettes' Den of Iniquity Nights and Label, Mystery Jets' Eel Pie Island Parties. There is a big pool of musicians significantly connected that can be termed Indie Folk.

Late 90s...?

Uuuuhh, the combination of indie rock and folk music has existed since at least the late 80s... I Am A Sandwich (talk) 20:41, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Too many artists

It gets a bit listy and there isn't much information Jbhf1 (talk) 01:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

This is crazy!!! Notable are only a few!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.19.73.130 (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I tried to remove every non-notable artist on two occasions (I forgot that I had done it once before) but was stopped by Rhododendrites. Obviously it seems there is a consensus to limit the list to sourced entries (WP:LSC).--Ilovetopaint (talk) 05:25, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Are you retroactively claiming consensus based on the above 7-year-old comment that could just as easily be interpreted as a call for more prose and a 2-year-old comment from an anonymous user that probably don't know what notability means? As before, no objection to removing any entries whose inclusion is specifically contested, but when challenging verifiability in a list of entries that all have their own article, I would expect that part of the process of contesting the claim includes checking to see if it's backed up in the article. What I object to is removing items from a list when their inclusion has already been verified in their respective articles, simply because an editor prefers to also include a citation in the list and doesn't feel like copying it over. (And I appreciate that the most recent edits have taken the articles' citations into account).

That said, two things: (1) I'm not actually looking to rehash procedural interpretations. (2) Certainly, if there's consensus for it (which obviously isn't constituted by this section [yet]), editors of an individual page can absolutely set more stringent inclusion criteria (typically requiring an inline citations for every entry is for contentious subjects, but I suppose you could consider genres contentious).

The page slipped off my radar after starting to add some refs a while back, but I'll try to do some more removing and/or sourcing this weekend. I appreciate that my request that you copy refs over is tedious/annoying, and do ultimately agree that it is preferable that every item have a source, so I'll try to put my edits where my mouth is (kind of an awkward snowclone). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 06:04, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

I've made a number of edits to the article, mostly deletions, but have not insisted on citations. I just look at the target article to see if indie folk is listed there. This is not the best way though. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:22, 23 June 2017 (UTC)