Talk:John II Komnenos/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 06:06, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Will start soon. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 06:06, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria[edit]

GA Criteria

GA Criteria:

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1.b Y
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2.c Y

2.d N
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No DAB links Y
No dead links Y
No missing citations N

@20DKB03: Two issues need to be fixed here:
The section: Niketas Choniates alone tells of the actions by which John II secured his own accession to power. Alexios I had favoured John to succeed him over his wife Irene's favourite, the Caesar Nikephoros Bryennios, who was married to their daughter Anna Komnene. Alexios resorted to dissimulation in order to avert Irene's criticism of his choice and her demands that Nikephoros should succeed. As Alexios lay on his deathbed in the monastery of the Mangana on 15 August 1118, John, consorting with relatives whom he could trust, among whom was his brother, the sebastokratōr Isaac Komnenos, stole into the monastery and took the imperial signet ring from his dying father. Then, taking up arms, he rode to the Great Palace, gathering the support of the citizenry who acclaimed him emperor. Irene was taken by surprise and was unable either to persuade her son to desist, or to induce Nikephoros to act against him. Although the palace guard at first refused to admit John without proof of his father's wishes, the mob surrounding the new emperor simply forced entry. Alexios died the following night. John refused to join the funeral procession, in spite of his mother's urging, because his hold on power was so tenuous. However, in the space of a few days, his position seemed secure. needs to be re-written, as at present it closely mirrors the John comm source.

There are also several dead links that require fixing before article review can proceed. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 04:55, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have attempted to rewrite the section you have highlighted, no idea what to do about dead links, I just write stuff. Urselius (talk) 09:22, 20 July 2018 (UTC) Ah! the red links - removed. Urselius (talk) 09:33, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Prose Suggestions[edit]

Please note that all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion.

forcing the Turks onto the defensive and restoring to the Byzantines many towns, fortresses and cities right across the peninsula. suggest:
forcing the Turks onto the defensive and restoring to the Byzantines many towns, fortresses and cities right across the Anatolian peninsula.
Also under John, the empire's population recovered to about 10 million people. suggest moving this down to begin its own paragraph, merged with the Unfortunately, John's reign is less well recorded by contemporary or near-contemporary writers than those of either his father, Alexios I, or his son, Manuel I. In particular little is known of the history of John's domestic rule or policies. paragraph.
@20DKB03 and Urselius: That is all my suggestions, passing now. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 06:52, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]