Talk:John Verdun Newton

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Comments[edit]

Hi Grant, overall this looks like an interesting article. I may not have time to go over content, prose and sources with a fine tooth comb tonight but can offer some comments on structure, style and images now at least:

  • Generally you don't see birth and death place mixed in with life dates in the lead, so rather than "(12 April 1916, Dongara, Australia [1] – 14 January 1944 Warmeloh, Germany [1][2])", I'd expect simply "(12 April 1916 – 14 January 1944)".
  • Most Good or Featured Articles tend to eschew citations in the lead and cite the material in the main body. So taking these first two points together, I'd expect to see the birth date repeated at the top of the main body, along with birth place, and all cited there. Similarly I'd expect to see death date repeated at the appropriate spot in the main body and cited there, along with death place. I'd have thought all the other material cited in the lead could also be sourced in the main body, rendering the lead citations redundant. Note that avoiding citations in the lead is the least of my concerns here, I'd always prefer too many citations to too few...
  • I understand the reasoning behind the list of the unusual aspects of his career but it looks a bit odd in a biographical lead. Three items doesn't seem excessive to render as a series of sentences, or even just one using semicolons to separate the clauses.
  • I tend to respect primary editors' decisions not to employ infoboxes but I can't remember a military or a political bio I've seen in WP that didn't use one. In this case of course you have a subject with military and political careers so an infobox seems doubly appropriate as a way of providing highlights of his life/career(s) in an easy-to-read form.
  • Generally all paragraphs should end with a citation; as examples, the last two paragraphs of Civilian life and political career and the fourth paragraph of War service do not.
  • Image licensing looks okay to me, I don't think any action is required there.

Will have to leave it there for now but should be able to come back in a day or two. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:08, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ian, I will give those some thought. Grant | Talk 07:21, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on John Verdun Newton. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:50, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Verdun_Newton&oldid=1207201894"