Talk:June 2024 Ukraine peace conference

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If you interested in coordinating with other Wikipedia editors on peace-process-related articles, then have a look at User:Boud/Draft:WikiProject Peace, use it as a guide, edit it, and see if you can work effectively with others interested in building these sorts of Wikipedia articles. There are plenty of key articles that are missing, such as arms control in Europe, arms control in Asia, arms control in Africa. Peace processes including monitoring, people, institutions, legal and other documents, confidence-building - street protests alone are insufficient (and in this case, street protests seem to have not played a significant role - though if you can find sources on that, go ahead and use them). Boud (talk) 18:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Global Peace Summit[edit]

First Global Peace Summit in June ^[1] Switzerland to host 'high-level' Ukraine peace summit in mid-June, says Russia will not attend ^[2] Volodymyr (talk) 10:41, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 9 May 2024[edit]

It has been proposed in this section that June 2024 Ukraine peace conference be renamed and moved to Global Peace Summit.

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June 2024 Ukraine peace conference → Global Peace Summit – For International relations: Global Peace Summit. Volodymyr (talk) 07:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Global Peace Summit: The presidents of Ukraine and Switzerland agreed to hold the first Global Peace Summit in June ^[1] Switzerland to host 'high-level' Ukraine peace summit in mid-June, says Russia will not attend ^[2] Volodymyr (talk) 07:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Today English-language sources indicate that the name "Global Peace Summit" is better. Title criterions: "Article titles are based on how reliable English-language sources refer to the article's subject". Wait a few days. --Volodymyr (talk) 13:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC) – Changed to "comment" per WP:RMCOMMENT. In move requests, nomination implies support. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 13:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose a title change right now and Wait a few weeks. It is not yet clear if there is a single most commonly used name of the summit. Global Peace Summit risks being too ambiguous to satisfy the Recognizability title criterion in the long term. For example, in the year 2034 or 2044 it's unlikely that people who hear the term "global peace summit" will think primarily of the June 2024 Russian-invasion-of-Ukraine global peace conference, since there have already been many international peace conferences and peace congresses during the 19th and 20th centuries, and there could be more Russian-invasion-of-Ukraine global peace conferences that follow the June 2024 one, and there could be more global peace summits during the 2020s, 2030s and 2040s for other parts of the world (e.g. a Horn of Africa 'global' summit concerning the Ethiopian and Sudanese wars). The current title of June 2024 Ukraine peace conference is intended to be descriptive. In a few weeks' time a common title may emerge in media coverage, so waiting until then will avoid wasting time trying to decide on a long-term name right now. (I might update my arguments if someone presents convincing evidence based on sources in favour of one particular name.) Boud (talk) 13:28, 9 May 2024 (UTC) (clarify Boud (talk) 14:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
June 2024 Global Peace Summit

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Is such a name possible? Volodymyr (talk) 15:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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June 2024 Ukraine Global Peace Summit Volodymyr (talk) 15:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalisation would only make sense if there's a clearly defined official name. The Swiss federal ministry organising the meeting has so far used lower case high-level conference on peace in Ukraine and Swissinfo has used lower case a high-level Ukraine peace conference, a peace summit, "The conference aims...". The UA presidency clearly wishes to use Global Peace Summit, but the host is Switzerland, and the wider usage (e.g. media) may, or may not, choose to use the same name chosen by the UA Presidency. Kyiv Independent says peace summit (lower case) and cites the Spanish PM writing Peace Conference for Ukraine (capitalised). MaiNichi says Ukraine peace summit in Switzerland in June and an international leader-level meeting in Switzerland next month to explore measures to achieve peace in Ukraine (rather long) and "Summit on Peace in Ukraine" (capitalised and quoted).
I see no evidence of a well-established either official name or common name. (Keep in mind WP:GOOGLEHITS: search engine counts are only a weak guide for common usage.) Boud (talk) 17:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today. Summary: Ukraine peace summit June 2024.

(English-language sources, title criterion). Volodymyr (talk) 04:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support changing the title to June 2024 Ukraine peace summit (while waiting a few weeks to see if the UA presidency's official name or another common title emerges), on the grounds of:
Precision: the conference is clearly going to include heads of state and government, so the word summit is more specific for this type of conference, decreasing ambiguity;

Recognizability: the term summit does does seem to appear more often in response to itself in the search string in the top SearXNG categories=news hits compared to searching on conference with the same parameters or another SearXNG instance;

Consistency of style: events that need a date in the title generally have the date at the beginning, unless it is in parentheses at the end for a recurring event. Boud (talk) 20:36, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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English-language sources, title criterion[edit]

Global Peace Summit
English-language sources:

Official President of Ukraine. By name «Global Peace Summit» found 203 results, ^[1]
Ukraine peace summit^[2]
Ukrainian Peace Summit^[3]^[4]
Summit on Peace in Ukraine^[5] Federal Department of Foreign Affairs (FDFA)
Ukraine is preparing a global peace summit of state leaders^[6]
First Peace Summit for Ukraine^[7]

Volodymyr (talk) 13:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ukraine peace summit[edit]

Ukraine peace summit in Switzerland^[1], in relation to the Russo-Ukrainian War, is planned to be held in Bürgenstock Resort on 15-16 June 2024. The international conference follows a series of four earlier international meetings, and will be hosted by the Swiss president Viola Amherd.

I want to edit first sentence per WP:REDUNDANC Volodymyr (talk) 08:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your proposed sentence makes no change in relation to WP:REDUNDANCY. Your proposed changes do not improve the English. Boud (talk) 14:30, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to improve? Volodymyr (talk) 15:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraine peace summit in Switzerland^[1] ... Volodymyr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volodymyr Lensky (talk • contribs) 15:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starting the sentence like that doesn't make sense in English. I (and others) can't propose any improvements to fix problems unless you say what the problems are. Boud (talk) 20:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Gabrielle Tétrault-Farber (10 April 2024), Switzerland to host Ukraine peace summit on June 15-16, Reuters, Wikidata Q125879967{{citation}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

[1] [1]https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezidenti-ukrayini-ta-shvejcariyi-domovilisya-provesti-pers-90173

[2] [2]https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240410-switzerland-host-ukraine-peace-summit-mid-june-russia

[3] ttps://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezidenti-ukrayini-ta-shvejcariyi-domovilisya-provesti-pers-90173

[4] ttps://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240410-switzerland-host-ukraine-peace-summit-mid-june-russia]https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240410-switzerland-host-ukraine-peace-summit-mid-june-russia

[5] ttps://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/kancler-nimechchini-premyer-ministri-daniyi-ta-niderlandiv-i-90761

[6] ttps://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-peace-summit-pushes-neutral-swiss-toward-western-embrace-2024-05-10/

[7] ttps://www.reuters.com/world/europe/switzerland-host-ukraine-peace-summit-june-15-16-2024-04-10/

[8] ttps://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/05/5/7454374/

[9] ttps://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/das_eda/aktuell/dossiers/konferenz-zum-frieden-ukraine.html

[10] ttps://unn.ua/en/news/ukraine-is-preparing-a-global-peace-summit-of-state-leaders

[11] ttps://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/984205.html

[Reuters_April2024_UA-12] Gabrielle Tétrault-Farber (10 April 2024), Switzerland to host Ukraine peace summit on June 15-16, Reuters, Wikidata Q125879967{{citation}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

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