Talk:List of air show accidents and incidents in the 20th century

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Unlike some list pages, I think it would be more complete to list all crashes and not just crashes that have existing article pages. Shinerunner (talk) 00:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can remember at least two fatal crashes of display aircraft at the RAF/USAF Mildenhall airshow in the late 70s/early 80s: I'm pretty sure one was a single aircraft from the Frecce Tricolori in about 1979, the other (circa 1984) was a single prop-driven USAF basic trainer aircraft.66.134.170.155 (talk) 17:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rhein-Main accident, May 22, 1983[edit]

The description of this crash in this article differs markedly from the account given at Frankfurt Airport#Incidents. In all probability the description given here is based on an (inaccurate) early news report and should be amended, but that's only a guess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.62.101 (talk) 17:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote this entry based on the news report listed as a ref. I also double-checked it against the Ejection Seat website (whence cometh the aircraft serial). I have seen no other accounts. Mark Sublette (talk) 03:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)Mark SubletteMark Sublette (talk) 03:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Further, looking at the Frankfurt article referred to above, I think that the two versions substantially agree, enhancing rather than contradicting, each other. Mark Sublette (talk) 03:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)Mark SubletteMark Sublette (talk) 03:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chandy Clanton - was this at an airshow?[edit]

The recent entry about Clanton's accident does not state that it occurred during an airshow. If it was while practising for an airshow it doesn't belong in this article. --TraceyR (talk) 19:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Several accidents mentioned not at airshows[edit]

I have just removed a couple of entries which describe accidents which occurred during practice for airshows. In view of the title of this article, these surely do not qualify for mention here. This is not a list of accidents related to airshows but of airshow accidents, i.e. on the day, during the airshow. --TraceyR (talk) 19:27, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i.e.

  1. 1925 - not at airshow
  2. 1966 #1 - not at airshow
  3. 1993 #3 - not at airshow
  4. 1996 #2 - not at airshow
  5. 2001 #3 - not at airshow (media shoot)
  6. 2006 #3 - not at airshow (practice flight)
  7. 2007 - not at airshow

I suggest that these be removed, since they do not satisfy the criterion for inclusion in this list. --TraceyR (talk) 10:12, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  1. What about accidents and incidents at air races, should they be included? There's currently one in 1997 that seems to be a description of an air race event rather than an air show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.119.14.160 (talk) 09:00, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  1. *Not technically an airshow incident, accident occurred at Reno Air Races during the Race, not show portion.*

I added that at the end of the Reno Air Races description. The incident did occur at the Air Racing event, not the airshow itself.

in view of above I guess 7 killed in rehearsal for airshow not worth adding?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34007086 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.252.157 (talk) 22:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Something to add[edit]

To someone who likes to write, this accident I attended when I was 6yo. The one nearby I did not see, but apparently there was another in 1993 also in New Hampshire. In addition the the provided information, I know from later taking flight lessons at the airport that the accident was said to be due to the parachuter missing some of the scheduled meetings, so he jumped at the wrong time. The instructor also told me they would find limbs behind the hanger etc, but is extraneous details! http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-8237805.html76.88.44.194 (talk) 08:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Order of years in index matrix[edit]

It seems counter-intuitive to have the years in reverse chronological order. Why not start at the beginning? --TraceyR (talk) 20:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem for me. You can change the order as you see fit. Shinerunner (talk) 22:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC

1978[edit]

"*(Grande Prairie, Alberta) - Captain Gordon de Jong of the Canadian Forces Snowbirds died when the horizontal stabilizer failed, rendering the aircraft uncontrollable. Although ejection was initiated, it was not successful.[citation needed]" A photo was published in newspapers showing the ejection taking place about 10 feet above ground and not upright. Can't find a online version. AMCKen (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Air show fatality in Redding, California in 1991.[edit]

Not sure why this 1991 air show crash isn't listed; the pilot died and a number of spectators were injured, some seriously. I remember being in the ER getting a broken hand set when ambulances came in with the wounded. Here's a link:

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-06-24/news/mn-813_1_redding-air-show

Thanks.

Michelle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.94.43.126 (talk) 21:20, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does "rehearsal day" count?[edit]

In the late 1950s or early '60s (possibly around the time South Africa became a republic - 1961), an F86 Sabre of the South African Air Force (SAAF) aerobatics team, the Silver Falcons, crashed into some houses in Forest Hill, Port Elizabeth, killing several people on the ground. The pilot ejected and landed safely in dense bush near the airport. The incident occured while the aerobatics team was rehearsing for an air display to be held on the following day. I was watching from the balcony of our flat and saw two planes "touch"; shortly thereafter one plummeted toward the ground, the pilot ejected, and a column of black smoke rose from the impact area. Does anyone else recall the accident or have more details?

Elio1 (talk) 14:56, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not. I think the significant thing is that A&Is at airshows are witnessed by (or even effect) lots of people, hence get more coverage hence are considered more notable. We don't have articles like "List of ... during aircrew training". DexDor (talk) 18:27, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Trident II crash[edit]

On 20 or 21 May 1957, SNCASO SO-9050 Trident II F-ZWTT crashed at the Paris Air Show, killing pilot Charles Goujon. The French language site where I got this information is no longer available, but Wikipedia shows it as well, [1]

2602:306:3530:20B0:25:94FA:8BD6:B9D2 (talk) 22:24, 16 August 2012 (UTC)Randall Clague, Mojave, CA[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Itsfullofstars/Sandbox/SNCASO_SO.9000_Trident

Incomplete descriptions[edit]

To whoever is maintaining this page, please note that some descriptions are incomplete (cut mid-sentence) in the 2012 section. 93.97.33.17 (talk) 18:05, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At least some of these were in the Revision as of 11:04, 2 February 2013.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_air_show_accidents_and_incidents&action=historysubmit&diff=536169848&oldid=535587023
I'll leave reverting to someone who knows what effect this will have on subsequent edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.80.202 (talk) 05:26, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Military air shows?[edit]

Do military air shows count? If so, then a notable omission would be 1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash. Boardhead (talk) 18:56, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the crash was during practice. So maybe that rules it out too. Knowing the rules would be helpful. Boardhead (talk) 19:00, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes military airshows count but like civil airshows the accident has to be during the show. not during practice or transit to and from. That said the B-52 was not actually performing at a show. MilborneOne (talk) 20:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Additions of accidents not at airshows[edit]

Just a reminder that previous consensus is that this is a list of accidents and incidents at airshows, recent additions do not meet the criteria as they were not actually at an airshow. If you need clarification then please ask, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 20:20, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Article split[edit]

I've been thinking that it may be time to split this article due to the current size. The new page names, unless someone suggests a better alternative, could be these.

Shinerunner (talk) 21:20, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support, with a reminder that the 21st century began on 1 January 2001. Suggest that this article is renamed and the 21st century one is created as a new list. Mjroots (talk) 05:00, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Article split and renaming done. Shinerunner (talk) 11:02, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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