Talk:List of horn techniques

Horn Techniques?

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not so sure that things like alternate fingers, use of petroleum jelly on slides, and two different ways to empty water really qualify as "Horn Techniques" Does anyone have a problem with removing (or at least validating the existence of) these particular subjects? Csdorman 18:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I would agree that these particular references to "Horn technique" not actually that, I would say that alternate fingerings are an essential part of normal performance. Use of petroleum jelly on slides is necessary to prevent valve slides being jammed onto their tubing, and as far as emptying water is concerned - again this is necessary as further performance would be impeded by the presence of water in the tubing. However; water could be left in the instrument to employ an extended technique. I have been playing French Horn for 35 years, I do not profess to be an expert on the subject but am in the process of studying for a Bachelor of Music degree.

While I agree that alternate fingerings are important, and necessary, I don't think they fall under the heading of "horn technique". Alternate fingerings are used by all brass instruments - and even by woodwind instruments as well. And while petroleum jelly can be used on slides, it is not necessary. There are many different things that can be used on slides - from the "real" slide grease, to Vaseline, to anhydrous lanolin, to STP. Each one has good and bad points, but none are part of horn technique. Same with emptying water - while it is necessary, it's hardly unique to the horn, and while it can be difficult, each horn wrap is different in some respects. I still am unconvinced that these things belong in an article which otherwise is mostly horn-specific.Csdorman (talk) 03:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Original research?

I don't see a single reference. But I do see plenty of errors; in most cases they seem to be based on a limited knowledge of the horn, and the brasses in general. One person's narrow perspective on the horn; a person with limited training, experience, and expertise. In other words, a typical Wikipedia article that's likely to remain in place, and to be taken as accurate by those gullible enough (and simple enough) to consider Wikipedia a reliable source of information. As it stands, the article fails to meet Wikipedia's "standards", which makes it commonplace and unexceptional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.62.214 (talk) 14:44, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Overblowing for added bass note. Another horn technique?

Another horn technique? "Mozart's horn concertos all include such stopped notes, in addition to bass notes obtained by the technique known as "overblowing," another skill developed by Leutgeb." from http://www.allmusic.com/composition/horn-concerto-no-3-in-e-flat-major-k-447-mc0002375671# attributed to Brian Robins

Issues with this "fact": I know very very very little about the horn. I can't find the quote on any RS site. I can't find any other record of overblowing producing bass notes that are need in Mozart's Horn Concertos.

My enquiries are continuing. 124.171.69.103 (talk) 07:16, 28 September 2015 (UTC)