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Empires with sourced areas but without dates[edit]
I figured I'd make a section for empires where sources have been found for the maximum extent but with no year specified (meaning they can't be included in the list). My hope is that this will be helpful when people try to locate sources. Feel free to add entries of your own to the list below. TompaDompa (talk) 23:38, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ashanti Empire: 100,000 square miles[1] – since added using this source which provides the corresponding figure of 250,000 km2 and the year 1820.[2]TompaDompa (talk) 21:05, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dzungar Khanate: 3,600,000 km2[3] – since added using this source which provides the same figure and the year 1650.[6]TompaDompa (talk) 03:03, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Xianbei state: 4,500,000 km2[3] – since added using this source which provides the same figure and the year 200.[6]TompaDompa (talk) 03:03, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think we can add those empires in the list, I would only noted in the time cell "unknown". Janos Neman (talk) 12:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This article is about largest empires, as such they might not have been at the time they existed. Slatersteven (talk)
^Hart, Hornell (1948). "The Logistic Growth of Political Areas". Social Forces. 26 (4): 402. doi:10.2307/2571873. ISSN0037-7732. In the Mediterranean area the earliest historic governments which extended their territory by major use of fleets were the Greek and the Phoenecian, reaching areas of approximately 250,000 square miles each
^Alcock, Susan E.; D'Altroy, Terence N.; Morrison, Kathleen D.; Sinopoli, Carla M. (2001-08-09). Empires: Perspectives from Archaeology and History. Cambridge University Press. p. 85. ISBN978-0-521-77020-0. The total spatial extent of the empire, not including the north coast, I estimate to have been some 320,000 square kilometers.
Umayyad should be on top of Abbasid and was bigger than Abbasid[edit]
Abbasid ruled from Libya to India but Umayyad ruled from Morroco to India and had the Iberian Peninsula and some of France also plus it had more in Turkey and if we count occupied areas it makes it easily bigger than Abbasid
Wikipedia is requested to change the mistake and put Umayyad in top of ABBASID and about sources why is it even needed Umayyad litterally looks bigger in map
Umayyad is obviously bigger I am a Muslim myself and saying this
Again requested to change 58.145.185.253 (talk) 18:11, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sokoto caliphate had effective control of the sulatanate of Agadez in the north (in present Niger Republic) to Lokoja at the Niger confluence, from the west it stretched from Segou(emirate of hamdullahi),they had effective control on yorubaland thanks to the illorin emirate.to the east they had adamawa,this emirate alone was 400,000 sqkm so the whole empire cant be that same size,further northeast they had control of of most of western tchd and all the tchad lake
wich is 1.95million square kilometers,i will be changing the size and providing sources
My main one is the thesis of Murray last on the sokoto caliphate 85.192.74.198 (talk) 10:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would rather you presented the sources here. Slatersteven (talk) 10:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]