Talk:M50 Reising

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I've seen photos of them in French Resistance hands. Any figures on how many were dropped there?

Flipped Photo[edit]

The photograph shown as of 15 Jan 2009 shows a Model 50 with ejection port and selector lever on the LEFT. I believe the photograph is flipped horizontally, because every reference book shows the ejection port and selector on the right side. I have handled a Reising 50 and it was a right-handed gun. Naaman Brown (talk) 15:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC) I have gone ahead and posted a corrected version of the original photo keeping the original photo's descriptions. The original was a mirrored image (left and right reversed). Naaman Brown (talk) 11:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cutts[edit]

The Cutts compensator on the end of the Reising Model 50 barrel, like the Cutts compensator on the end of the Thompson Models 1921AC and 1928, is designed as a recoil brake, not as a flash suppressor as described in the article. This probably a minor point, since a recoil compensator will trap and cool gases escaping the muzzle and work like a flash suppressor, but that is not the original design intent.Naaman Brown (talk) 10:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not the way you think. A Cutts Compensator (and the vast majority of compensators) acts as a flash enhancer in numerous ways. When allowed to exit a clean muzzle, the flash bloom dissipates quickly. When focused and directed, the point of the compensator is to keep the muzzle blast hot, therefore bright. Further, the flash blast is directed upwards, above cover and into the view of the firer. Even if the flash were either reduced or the same, it would appear more intense. The terms "flash hider" and "flash suppressor" are wholly inappropriate. --Nukes4Tots (talk) 12:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Video with this weapon[edit]

This site: http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=7am2UIsXDAM has a video with this weapon, Sten gun and MP-5 shooting.Agre22 (talk) 00:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)agre22[reply]

M65, M165, Models 150 and 151[edit]

Gun Parts Corp (Numrich Arms) carries parts for the .22 training rifles based on the Reising design, the Model 65 "General" and Model 165 "Leatherneck", and the civilian sporting versions Models 150 and 151 also known as "Leatherneck" (from the nickname for US Marines). Model 65 was proportioned to the size, weight and buttstock dimensions of the M1 Garand to serve as a military trainer, introduced in 1944. Many parts are in common among the four models (65, 165, 150 and 151). The military trainers are hard to find on the collectors market, but the sporting versions more common. Naaman Brown (talk) 19:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Model 65 with a Garand-syle safety inside the trigger guard was designated the MC-58. Naaman Brown (talk) 15:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

magazine problem[edit]

"A partial solution to the magazine problem was the later introduction of a single column magazine which reduced the capacity from 20 to 12 rounds."

The double column stack to single column feed design of the Reising magazine was shared by the Sten gun among others. One can find Indian Sten magazines modified from 32 shot double column to 20 shot single column for the same reason: the friction is multiplied as the alternating double column narrows to single column feed, add a little sand or even dust and you have a jam. Naaman Brown (talk) 11:43, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

I uploaded photos of the whole Reising firearms family. If anyone wants to move them around or start a new article about a variant, these images are up for grabs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curiosandrelics (talk • contribs) 22:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verifying Reising Problem[edit]

My former step-father landed on Guadalcanal with a 37mm artillery battery early in the campaign. He was issued a USMC standard Reising, which lasted about 24 hours before the bolt assembly rusted shut. He threw it away and picked up an '03, which he carried until he was able to steal an M1 Garand from an Army unit. In his opinion, the Reising was the worst weapon ever issued for combat use. 71.221.112.95 (talk) 06:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There were several similar anecdotes by WWII users of the Reising in a magazine for Marines and Marine Corp veterans. On the other hand, police and sheriff's departments (where armorers cleaned and maintained the guns and usage was light) had fewer problems. Collectors report that the Reising requires more maintenance than other SMGs used in WWII. Naaman Brown (talk) 21:24, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio[edit]

Large part of the article seems to be copypasted from Small Arms Review-article: http://www.robertankony.com/publications/reising-submachine-gun . --91.153.18.202 (talk) 02:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@91.153.18.202 Ten years on and this is still true, sigh. Will try to find reliable sources and replace the copied sections. RookWeaver (talk) 23:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Correction to Weapon Length[edit]

The OALs given are wildly off. Manual link here: http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/hr_50_55_60.pdf and I own an M50. Corrected to measurements from the manual. Mzmadmike (talk) 22:30, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]