Talk:Marjorie Tuite

Notability

Subject doesn't appear to meet WP:BIO criteria. Looks like a classic case of WP:1E. I propose a redirect to A Catholic Statement on Pluralism and Abortion. Cloonmore (talk) 23:47, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

The article can easily be expanded rather than redirected. Tuite is quite notable as the founder of the National Assembly of Religious Women (NARW). She was the Director of Ecumenical Action for Church Women United (CWU). For NARW and CWU, she created a feminist political skills leadership training kit that was influential. She co-founded NETWORK, a national Catholic justice group stressing social change through legislation. In 1982, she founded the Women's Coalition to Stop Intervention in Central America. She was a delegate to the First Congress on Human Rights in El Salvador. She was a prominent activist for the Sandinistas. Binksternet (talk) 00:15, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

"Quite notable," eh? Got any sources? (i.e., not OR for a change, Binks). Cloonmore (talk) 02:09, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

I prefer to compose or improve articles that I select rather than ones other people select. My comment above was written with reliable sources open in several windows, and if you wished, you could find them. Binksternet (talk) 04:32, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

That's strange. After a few mins searching on Google, I wasn't able to find any of your supposed RS, other than a couple of obits that emphasize her participation in the 1984 YT ad. I do see that some the info you mention is here, but those are personal papers donated to a university, not an RS. Looks like an AfD. Cloonmore (talk) 15:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Rather than making work for others with an AfD, taking time away from their chosen pursuits, you could expand this article with sources, describing Tuite's advocacy for women's rights in the Church and for human rights in El Salvador.

• Dominican Nuns has a chapter written solely about Marjorie Tuite.
• News story, also here
• The Mary Rhodes Award
• Sojourners magazine, October 1986 (Vol. 15, No. 9, pp. 13). " Marjorie Tuite Dies" by Steven Hall-Williams
• Calendar of Women
• "Tuite papers tell story of an inspired leader" by Valerie Gerrard Browne
• Tuite was important in Women's Ordination Conference issues, also [1]
• Tuite coined the term "Women-Church" along with Elisabeth Schüssler Fiorenza.
• Review of Catholic and Feminist
• "Women religious leaders were emerging. The late Columbus, Ohio, Dominican, Sr. Marjorie Tuite, became a disturbing prophet demanding that nuns measure themselves by their fidelity to the gospel."
• "Nuns Fast to Denounce U.S. Policy"
• "Marjorie Tuite, a nun well-known because of her work against racism, was facilitating a caucus formed to consider establishing an organization on the issue of women’s ordination in the Catholic Church..."
• Tuite appeared on the Phil Donahue show
• Lasting influence of Tuite through NARW/NAWR going to NETWORK and then Women's Ordination Conference. Also here.
• Two-and-a-half pages about Tuite's life

As auxiliary articles, you could write National Assembly of Religious Women (redirect National Assembly of Women Religious), and you could write NETWORK (Catholic group). Binksternet (talk) 17:10, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Good effort, but you're scraping the barrel. Much of that would fail the RS test. Many are self-published by Loyola U., WOC, the Lorettos, or regurgitated Wikipedia materials. There are a few passing references to her in texts, and a couple articles about her visiting Central America with other nuns. One appearance on Donahue falls far from establishing notability. And there is a full paragraph containing Sr. Camille D'Arienzo's personal reminiscences in a 2002 column in the Nat Cath Rep. I don't see the case for notability. There is a paucity of secondary sources about her and supporting her notability, as opposed to the groups or events that she participated in. Cloonmore (talk) 19:18, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Would an obituary from the New York Times help? Because they printed one ([2]), describing her as a notable "advocate for women's rights", and noting that her advocacy in that capacity (and her opposition to U.S. policy in Central America) rubbed the Church hierarchy the wrong way. MastCell ^Talk 05:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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