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June 2018[edit]

The name of the party is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.244.80.50 (talk) 13:00, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2020[edit]

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change 29.91% to 72.72% (math error) C.R 14:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Not done for now: 32 / 107 is indeed 29.91% DannyS712 (talk) 22:21, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mapping the 2020-2021 split?[edit]

Is there any good WP:RS mapping the ongoing split?

For the Prachanda-Madhav group I find mentions like 'प्रचण्ड-माधव नेपाल समूह' (BBC, 'Prachanda-Madhav Nepal Group'), 'नेकपा प्रचण्ड–माधव समूह' ('NCP Prachanda-Madhav Group'), 'नेकपा प्रचण्ड–माधव पक्ष' ('NCP Prachanda-Madhav Faction'). But is there any specific term for the KP Oli faction?
How is the HoR faction of NCP divided? Are all deputies identified? What about the Central Committee?
Regarding the 9-member Secretariat pre-split would now be divided:
Prachanda-Madhav group: Pushpa Kamal Dahal, Madhav Kumar Nepal, Jhala Nath Khanal, Narayan Kaji Shrestha
Oli group: KP Sharma Oli, Bishnu Prasad Paudel, Ishwor Pokhrel, Ram Bahadur Thapa (https://kathmandupost.com/politics/2020/12/24/ram-bahadur-thapa-dahal-s-long-time-ally-joins-the-oli-faction)
Bamdev Gautam seems being in neither of the two camps?: https://english.onlinekhabar.com/bamdev-gautam-still-believes-in-ncp-unification-launches-campaign-for-that.html

--Soman (talk) 11:12, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 March 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved, the proposed style may be the official name, but is highly dispreferred according to Wikipedia policy. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 18:42, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nepal Communist Party → Nepal Communist Party (NCP) – The party is registered as "Nepal Communist Party (NCP)" with NCP within brackets—at the Election Commission in May 2018 after the poll body said it could not allot Nepal Communist Party as it was already registered in the name of Kattel Source ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 13:46, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move as unnecessary. No disambiguation is required. O.N.R. ^(talk) 14:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: This is an obvious non-starter. Wikipedia never includes an abbreviation along with a spelled-out name in an article title. — BarrelProof (talk) 16:55, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support: The official name of the party is Nepal Communist Party (NCP) and its official abbreviation is NCP (NCP). Adding (NCP) in the end will help differentiate with Communist Party of Nepal, Communist Party of Nepal (2013) and Communist Party of Nepal (2014) which are also referred to instead as Nepal Communist Party by the media. SimulationWig (talk) 18:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above reasons. Rreagan007 (talk) 05:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose — Per above. CentreLeftRight ✉ 21:05, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. We never, ever title articles like this. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - we can in some cases seek guidance from official Election Commission registrations to distinguish homonymous parties... like how to distinguish Bangladesh National Awami Party and Bangladesh National Awami Party-Bangladesh NAP or for the naming of Jatiya Samajtantrik Dal-JSD. But in this case the main NCP is faaaar more notable than the Kattel-led party, so the need to use the Election Commission registry name is less relevant. --Soman (talk) 14:00, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment : The Supreme Court has provided the name Nepal Communist Party to the party led by Kattel. Supreme Court awards Nepal Communist Party to Rishiram Kattel - Yeti Dai (talk) 09:32, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support: The party with the name Nepal Communist Party as recognized by the Election Commission of Nepal is the one led by Rishiram Kattel. The commission differentiated this party by adding (NCP) Sarisavila (talk) 11:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - as per Supreme Court decision on March 7, 2021 the registry of 'Nepal Communist Party (NCP)' was annulled. Thus this debate is moot. The fact that the party was registered as 'Nepal Communist Party (NCP)' 2018-2021 should be mentioned in the article but in terms of WP:COMMONNAME we should continue having the article at the current name Nepal Communist Party. --Soman (talk) 13:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support: They are (were before Supreme Court decision) two distinct parties. Nepal Communist Party of Kattel and Co. and Nepal Communist Party (NCP) of Oli and Prachanda. Doorsallase (talk) 10:42, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Supreme Court decision March 2021[edit]

So on March 7, 2021 the Supreme Court issued a ruling nullifying the recognition of the 2018 merger of CPN(UML) and CPN(Maoist Centre). That does not mean that the party has ceased to exist. Notably there still seems to exist parts of NCP that haven't aligned with either of the two main factions. And in particular, it does not mean that the previous two parties have automatically resurged. Presumably it's possible that 1-2 of the NCP factions would try to get the registry (...and election symbol) of one of 2 pre-merger parties. But effectively whatever emerges wouldn't be the same 2 parties as pre-merger. --Soman (talk) 22:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This article outlines some of the dilemmas at hand: https://kathmandupost.com/politics/2021/03/08/the-ncp-party-s-over --Soman (talk) 22:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Prachanda-Nepal group Central Committee had a meeting today (...i.e. still existing even after SC decision) https://english.khabarhub.com/2021/08/168495/ and as of March 8 Prachanda issued a statement as NCP chairman https://www.facebook.com/prachanda.nepal/posts/2898163770421132 --Soman (talk) 22:49, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We could also treat the Prachanda-Nepal Group and the Oli Group as two distinct parties, from the moment the formalized separate Central Committees. But let's wait a few days to see how things crystalize first. --Soman (talk) 22:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit 9 March[edit]

I did a review of the article, both in relation to the recent Supreme Court-related edits but also some more general clean-up.

Ideology in infobox: Just Marxism-Leninism is fine. People's Democracy is not the same as PMD, and the latter should not be piped from PD. PD isn't an ideology per se, but a party line. Democratic centralism isn't an ideology in itself either.
As noted above, the loss of registration does not mean the party is a non-entity and it does not automatically reconstitute the UML and Maobadi Kendra parties (notably, there are already other parties who have registered the names CPN(UML) and CPN(Maoist Centre) after the 2018 merger...)
Democratic socialism should definitely not be linked here
How could it be that the Politburo would be formed after the Standing Committee? Notably changing 'will' to 'was' doesn't work, since the reference talks about a future formation of the PB. The PB passage needs further rewrite and referencing
" 151-member committee for each of the seven provinces" needs to changed as well... the source doesn't back this up.

--Soman (talk) 19:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://himalsanchar.com/94462/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=madhavs-nepal-returning-to-oli-controlled-uml so this article implies that the two pre-merger parties are in the process of getting re-constituted. So if M.K. Nepal returns to UML, will Ram Bahadur Thapa return to Maoist Centre? --Soman (talk) 19:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CPN(UML) signboard at NCP party hq https://myrepublica.nagariknetwork.com/news/cpn-uml-s-signboard-placed-at-party-headquarters-in-dhumbarahi/ --Soman (talk) 20:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]