Talk:Order of the Chrysanthemum

Japan Mid‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Japan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Japan-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project, participate in relevant discussions, and see lists of open tasks. Current time in Japan: 00:01, May 10, 2024 (JST, Reiwa 6) (Refresh)JapanWikipedia:WikiProject JapanTemplate:WikiProject JapanJapan-related articles

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Japan to do list:

Peer review: Kako River (Japan)
A-class review: None

Featured content candidates –

Articles: None
Pictures: None
Lists: None

Good article nominations: Pure Japanese, Vinland Saga (TV series), Japanese destroyer Ume (1944), Mai Fujisawa, Godzilla Minus One
Add requested images to articles that need them.
Pages for Deletion: Participate in Japan-related deletion discussions.
Improve and expand Japan-related stubs.
Create some requested articles.
Help translate an article from the Japanese Wikipedia into English.
Assess unassessed articles

Orders, decorations, and medals Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medals, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of orders, decorations, and medals on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Orders, decorations, and medalsWikipedia:WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medalsTemplate:WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medalsOrders, decorations, and medals articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Numismatics Low‑importance

	Numismatics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Numismatics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of numismatics and currencies on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.NumismaticsWikipedia:WikiProject NumismaticsTemplate:WikiProject Numismaticsnumismatic articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Order of the Auspicious Clouds[edit]

Anyone know what this order is ? [1] Dowew 22:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction?[edit]

Order of the Crysanthemum appears to contradict itself. (And I can't figure out how to flag it such.)

It says The grand cordon is the highest possible honor a Japanese citizen could be awarded during his life time. Aside from the imperial household, only three grand cordons have been awarded to living citizens and eleven to the deceased.

Yet goes on to give a very lengthy list of living people who hold the Grand Cordon.

Only one of the people listed is Japanese, and he is an ex-prime minister! TinyMark 11:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not actually a contradiction. It only lists a single Japanese citizen; the rest are foreign heads of state. 173.44.77.185 (talk) 18:54, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Elizabeth II[edit]

I removed the "Queen Elizabeth II of the Commonwealth realms" as "of the Commonwealth realms" is not one of her titles - see List of titles and honours of Queen Elizabeth II. She has a different title in each realm, but is known first and foremost as "Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom". In any case, this article is about a Japanese honour and does not require links to entirely unrelated (Commonwealth) subjects. TinyMark 11:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Status: verifiability?[edit]

Does it make sense to limit new additions to this list? This thread is a first step in seeking consensus opinion.

Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to

(a) those who already have Wikipedia articles

and

(b) those whose award of this Japanese honor is also verified by a reliable source citation -- see, e.g., US Navy Cross edit history?

In a context informed by practices which seem to have worked out well at Navy Cross, all new additions who aren't already featured in an article could be re-redirected to this talk page section with the following edit history explanation:

the award of this Japanese honor must be confirmed by a reliable source citation -- see "Status: verifiability" on talk page

The names of those with an article, but with no reliable source confirming this honor are listed below:

John H. Lang, 1928 ...?

The names of those with neither confirmation by a reliable source nor an article are listed below:

Khan Bahadur H.M. Habibullah (1896-1988)<:ref>Pakistani Industrialist, Philanthropist and Statesman) For showing the Japanese that tea if cut and packaged properly could be a viable export crop.</ref> ...?
Mahavajiralongkorn, Crown Prince of Thailand

I did attempt a quick Google search for any kind of information about each presumed historical figure; but my efforts did not reveal readily identifiable support.

This specific problem arose at Order of the Sacred Treasure; and moving the name to the talk page proved to be a workable solution. In due course, the honor was verified and the names were restored to their deserved place in the article's lists. --Tenmei (talk) 14:38, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Admiral Tōgō[edit]

This fact was removed from the text because it has no citation support:

"Notwithstanding that general directive, in 1926 Fleet Admiral Marquis Tōgō Heihachirō became the first and, so far, only Japanese non-Imperial to be awarded the Collar of the Supreme Order of the Chrysanthemum."

The Admiral's name remains in the list part of the article because the collar is plainly visible in a formal portrait photograph; but the text needs somewhat more in order to be adequately supported. I do believe that this sentence is accurate, but that is not sufficient to comply with the requirements of WP:V. --Tenmei (talk) 21:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Description of the Insignia[edit]

I have seen sources that state that the round red center of the Star and Badge of the Chrysanthemum and of the Grand Cordon of the Rising Sun is a garnet, not red enamel. Since I don't have the source presently at my disposal I did not edit the website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.58.145 (talk) 21:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on Order of the Chrysanthemum. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 20:48, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Order of the Chrysanthemum. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20071213060535/http://regiments.org:80/biography/royals/1921phil.htm to http://www.regiments.org/biography/royals/1921phil.htm#titles

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 00:20, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Order of the Chrysanthemum. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:53, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]