Talk:Princelings

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Article is completely biased, as-is[edit]

This article is extremely biased and one-sided. The word "princeling" has many other connotation, historically. At best, the entire context of this article deserves to be relegated to one section of another, more-inclusive one.

Pazouzou (talk) 07:10, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, according to this article itself, the term princelings can have many connatations outside PRC. Yet it mainly reflects one respect which is arguably a violation of the NPOV policy. INDICATOR2018 (talk) 13:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I found it was identical to the text in [1].[edit]

Do I have the right to propose a deletion voting and how can I do this? Xiaojeng 05:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I removed alot of the editorialising (eg. "it is fair to say many of them are arrogant and domineering", i switched it to "many of them are perceived to be arrogant and undeserving of the fortune or prominence they holding").

"As a party governed by collective dictatorship, Chinese Communist Party would not advocate free election and speech. Those senor leaders think they have made contributions to the establishment of this government, thus it is legal for them and their families to enjoy the fruit of governance without any saying. Furthermore, it is naturally for them to pick up their own children to succeed this kingdom , so as to make sure it wouldn’t be overthrown by peace transition launched by western countries. As a result, the "Crown Princes" are often having important offices or big fortunes much faster and more convenient than other ordinary people or cadres, regardless of their possible incompetence ."

That whole paragraph is just an editorial, doesn't belong here.

"Furthermore, with the quest for democracy and liberty being insurmountable, CCP leaders still strongly resist this historic trend and would like their own children or relatives to succeed their reign so as to keep the life of totalitarianism forever young."

Editorial.

"It is without any doubt as CCP governance goes on for another day, the Crown Prince Party will go on for another day too"

Editorial.

I still think this whole article is just crap. Alot of it just reads just like a editorial. I think the photos and the names and the first paragraph is NPOV. The rest are just opinions written with bad spelling and english.

210.84.37.134 12:19, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Nepotism[edit]

I don't think that's a good idea. The CPP is an example for Nepotism, but Nepotism is not identical to the CPP. -85.181.9.113 22:57, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updates[edit]

I've updated a few job titles among the examples. DOR (HK) (talk) 06:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Broken link[edit]

This link doesn't work; does anyone have a better one? 中共「太子黨」 ("Crown Prince Party" of the Communist China) (in Traditional Chinese) A name list and some problems.

DOR (HK) (talk) 06:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of the example of Li Gang[edit]

Li Gang, whose son Li Qiming was involved in a famous hit-and-run accident, is only a low-ranking police officer in Baoding city. He is not even close to the level of other examples. Therefore I think it's not proper to list him in the examples and have removed that item. Gareth (talk) 23:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This might be worth a "see also" mention, as some of the themes are quite similar. Colipon+(Talk) 05:45, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

COMMONNAME[edit]

In recent media reports, I feel that the name "Princelings" have been used much more frequently than the "Crown Prince Party", a direct translation of the Chinese words taizidang that never picked up common usage in the English-language media. Thus I am proposing that per WP:COMMONNAME, we move this page to Princelings. Colipon+(Talk) 17:41, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I second this. I've actually never heard "Crown Prince" be used in this context, and I study China... Sven Manguard Wha? 16:12, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The page isn't protected, so any registered user can move it if there's consensus to do so. Princelings has only one edit, so can be overwritten by a page move. An optimist on the run! 21:51, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

moved. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 22:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It looks the type of naming here can be similar Russian 'apparatchik', that literally were named State Officials in Soviet Union, people who love to work inside an party apparatus. So, then, Wikipedia page can be looking like just 'Taizidang' if we want to be academical? The same Japanese Sushi, Emoji, Russian Sputnik, Perestroika. So, in my opinion, better to call this Taizidang (instead of redirection). PoetVeches (talk) 22:18, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]