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I'd suggest that some information be imported to this article from Church of Nigeria, especially since that church is one of the largest in the Anglican Communion and because of its role in "adopting" several American churches (by way of the Convocation of Anglicans in North America). I'd do it myself, but I'm only minimally familiar with the Anglican Communion, and even less familiar with Christianity in Nigeria. --Tim4christ17 ^talk 14:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Other religions

Re the additions made to 'other religions'. The principle is fine, but I have doubts about the inclusion of some of these. The entries for the Rosicrucian Order and Hari Krishna do not tell us anything about these religions in Nigeria, and in particular where they operate, how many adherents -- and this isn't the place to discuss what these religions are about, their own articles are for that. Some of them are also questionable on grounds of notability. If the Grail Movement only has 20,000 adherients worldwide, how many in Nigeria? A thousand? In a country of 140,000,000 virtually every religion, sect and cult will be represented. I daresay Buddhism and Bahai have far more adherents than those included. But the most questionalble addition is Scientology, and I've deleted this because firstly there's no evidence presented that there are any substantial numbers in Nigeria -- two high profile members doesn't make it notable. Secondly the reference whihc was quoted does not back up the text -- there's nothing in the article to back up the claim that Scientology is praised for curbing corruption amongst the government elite. Lastly, Scientology is not included in the article Religion in the United States, where it was founded and has the most members, so what justification is there for including it in Religion of Nigeria? Rexparry sydney 10:06, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Jehovah's Witnesses

They should not be under Christianity. Sarcelles (talk) 12:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The biased POV that JWs are not Christian has been discussed at length. However, if you wish, you may present your opinion about why JWs should not be listed under Christianity.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

As long as they call themselves Christians and believe that Jesus is Χριστός I don't see any where else to put them, at wikipedia we don't classify religions as being one of either nicene, heretic or pagan although that is the basic classification scheme for some people.·Maunus·ƛ· 20:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Religion

The article seems to make a statement that the north is predominately Muslim and infers that the south is christian. Northern Nigerians have personally stated that is incorrect and claim the Muslims there try to claim the number in the north based on things such as what language you speak. If you speak Hausa then you are Muslim which they claim is not the truth. They claim the relationship is more like 15%-20% are Muslims [Which I find hard to believe that numbers could be so far off]. However my information comes from Nigerians who were not Christians or Muslims but were from the North of Nigeria. It seems to be a important point they say people in the USA are being mislead about the issues(I am located in Asia so I don't know what is being said there). Perhaps picture proof could be given? if the article says that there are few churches in the north then there should be proof of that. At this point all I know is that the information here is inaccurate based upon what the Nigerians are tell me. I know there was a recent BBC article about it and many from Nigeria commented on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.165.26.179 (talk) 14:38, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Freemasonry is not a religion

Is freemasonry a religion? Please remove it. SillySickn (talk) 06:53, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Islam in Nigeria

The statement 'Islam is a traditional religion' in Africa is a difficult statement. One can acknowledge the long historical presence of Islam in Africa but calling it a traditional religion there is bogus.Domsta333 (talk) 11:43, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Agree Nlivataye (talk) 15:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Reversion

For the past few weeks, there has been massive socking and pov pushing going on by user Anwar Sadaat and his socks in this article- (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shinas/Archive). I have reverted to a version before the socking started.--Sodabottle (talk) 04:44, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

islam in nigeria @domsta333

well i think a religion with a history exceeding 1400 years in a continent is a traditional religion there otherwise what religion should be under this category ???!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightoflight25 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Source cited for christianity being practiced by 48% of the people doesnt work

It seems like this should be fixed with a *citation needed* 24.19.231.115 (talk) 17:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

math does not add up

section on christianity states: Christianity ... comprising 50.8% of the population. section below on islam states: Islam ... 50.4% of Nigeria's population. my calculator says, something is wrong here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodguy00 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Ditto. Why hasn't this been fixed.

Christian 50.8%, Muslim 47.9%

Pew Forums is reliable. They reveal their methodology (http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Christian/ChristianityAppendixA.pdf). Their study is more up to date than the CIA World Factbook, which is nothing more than an estimation, and they do not reveal their methodology.

The most recent and reliable data suggests Nigeria is 50.8% Christian (http://features.pewforum.org/global-christianity/total-population-percentage.php) and 47.9% Muslim (http://features.pewforum.org/muslim-population/).

Unless you have data backed up by evidence with a reliable methodology, do not change this.

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Please add this to the Christianity section, as this will offer a reliable source of what life is like for Christians in Nigeria

In January 2013, Christian nonprofit organization Open Doors ranked Nigeria as the 13th most difficult place to be a Christian, on their annual World Watch List. ^[1]

98.174.154.34 (talk) 22:42, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Done. I have also added a phrase about the persecution level being designated as "severe". Thanks for contributing this information and source. --Stfg (talk) 15:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

This IP has added virtually identical content to several dozen articles. This is WP:REFSPAM, and is more appropriately covered at the Open Doors article.-gadfium 19:43, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

References

^ "The Open Doors World Watch List 2013". Open Doors.

Numbers and pie chart

Given the conflicting reports of the percentage of Christians, Muslims, and others and no one really reliable source, I removed the pie chart as, by its nature, giving undue weight to one source. I did move two pictures, the national mosque and national church, up to replace it as that should visually depict that both Christianity and Islam are very important in Nigeria. --Erp (talk) 04:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Would disagree. If you look back to the original reason for selecting the Afrobarometer poll, though there may be conflicting reports, only one is wholly designed to be reliable. Here's the original rationale: 'Added pie chart using weighted data from Afrobarometer (2012). DHS & Afrobarometer most recent. DHS surveys people ages 15-49, Afrobarometer's sample frame: "citizens from Nigeria who are 18 years and older"' Mesh22 (talk) 08:42, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

And what about the Pew survey with again very different numbers? I suspect that given the current situation in Nigeria it is impossible to get good numbers. --Erp (talk) 03:54, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I made a mistake. Was sure I'd read Pew specifically state that their surveys in Africa be viewed as nothing more than "broad approximations" but on second reading, it appears they were making a claim about general population surveys such as theirs and Afrobarometer's, making theirs no more or less reliable than Afrobarometer's. Thanks, will leave unedited. Mesh22 (talk) 04:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Population size in lead

I think it is a good idea to include the total population in the lead as it (a) gives some idea of how to judge numbers further on in the article (a church with 1 million members is really big if the total population is 20 million, not so much if the population is 182 million) and (b) an idea of how important the country is and therefore the importance of the dominant religions. --Erp (talk) 03:54, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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[1] "The Open Doors World Watch List 2013". Open Doors.

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