Talk:Sacred feminine

merging "Sacred Feminine" with "Goddess"[edit]

In the interest of retaining the subtle nuances the two conceptual monikers can engender, I think the two concepts, though intimately related, should continue to exist separately. A kind of "wiki-syncretism" may deprive us this possibility.

However, the article in it's current form would definitely need to be amended to be more inclusive of the variations of the sacred feminine, which demonstrate (more than just) the gradual developement of the goddess concept through the ages. While its roots lay deep in the original mother goddess, its conceptual branches evolve functionally and morphologically within the sphere of culture.

See Erich Neumann's book "The Great Mother".

Specifically, the descriptions of the elementary (elemental) and transformative feminine. The Mother goddess is weighted heavily on the side of the elementary feminine; the forms of the Kore or maiden on the other. The fact that the models of the transformative are associated with treasure (maiden to be rescued: St. George; Andromeda) eschews an improtant morphological value that distinguishes itself in the sphere of the sacred feminine from the more fundamental Mother Goddess. (Perhaps we could think of it, vulgarly, as "where we've come from" vs. "where we're going".)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Neumann_%28psychologist%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mother

See also Carl Jung's concept of the Mother Archetype and the Anima (Collected Works).

Dminson 21:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, particularly treating the sacred feminine in literary and philosophic contexts, I think it would be a disservice to both concepts to conflate them. This article certainly needs work and will inevitably tread dangerously close to Original Research territory, I think. But ideally, given some work, these two concepts would be treated distinctly. Some concepts which fit within the sacred feminine, such as Ecclesia as feminine imagination of the body of the Christian church, or Philosophia as Boethius' imagination of wisdom personified, clearly do not fit within any article on mother goddesses. Indeed, to imagine Philosophia or Ecclesia as goddesses within their own ideological framework is heresy --Yst 15:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's still no source cited for the expression "sacred femine". Still I don't see as correct the proposed merge between Sacred feminine and Goddess, since the sacred and the divine are two different concepts.--SummerWithMorons (talk) 17:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some people of monotheistic religious heritage are comfortable with rediscovering the "sacred feminine", but they would definitely be uncomfortable with any kind of explicit goddess-worship. The phrase was presumably influenced by the "Eternal feminine" (Ewige Weiblichkeit) a phrase or concept which doesn't seem to be covered on Wikipedia... AnonMoos (talk) 14:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Campbell-centric[edit]

It's nice that this article has sources, but it's somewhat unfortunate that it's heavily dominated by Campbell, because I don't think that Campbell is a predominant influence among practicioners of feminist spirituality or the sacred feminine... AnonMoos (talk) 14:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]