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Hittite etymology[edit]

I put the contradict tag as well, because there seems to be a weird jump from Hitite to Greek. If it were a very similar Hitite name, how did it derive from the similar Greek word? I suppose the Greek name derived from the Hitite one as well. So does anyone have sources for this?

I didn't get the point. Why the title of this article is "Sivas, Turkey" rather than simply "Sivas"? Saygılarımla, Deliogul 22:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is Wikipedia policy that exceptional claims require exceptional sources, and this one does not have so much as third-rate web citation. Somebody needs to find a credible source for this assertion and remove those weasel words. Why is it so hard to admit that the most likely derivation of Sivas is Sebasteia? Aramgar (talk) 04:39, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About my efforts on the article[edit]

First I expanded the Sights section and added some of the most popular places in the city there. Then I made a research about the origin of the name "Sivas" but I saw that, nearly all of the city names in Turkey have a meaning or a background, the name "Sivas" seems to has no historical connection. Rather than simply erasing the Hittite and Greek origin claims, I decided to sum them up in a section and showed them as "claims". I also added two new images to the article. I hope I could improve the article. My ancestors were from Sivas so I think I completed my duty. Saygılarımla, Deliogul 16:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are no doubts that the city of Sivas, called Sêwas in real, is a Kurdish city according to the history, ethnic maps and if you see the map of Kurdistan. The majority of city and the provice's population are Kurds. The forces that have occupated that region are of course denying it, but no one can hide the truth. No only me, but the history and the ethnic maps made by international experts have proved that Sivas (Sêwas) is a Kurdistanian city - an undivided part of Kurdistan.

I think you are sadly sided about Sivas. It is my homeland, my history and I'm not Kurdish. My ancestors, Seljuks and Ottomans, built great places in the city to put their signature on it. I don't want to make it a clash between people from different origins but I can simply create a counter argument against your Kurdistan claim. Anatolia, therefore Sivas and other 80 cities, is in the borders of Turkeli (the lands of Turks) and the maps of Turan have proved that Sivas is a Turkish city. You see, you are not scientific at all and you are not helping the situation by calling me an occupant in the city of Sivas. I hope Turks and Kurds can unite as the citizens of Turkey to rise together in Sivas and in other places. Deliogul 19:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If someone looks at backwards from Hittite all the way to todays Turkiye, you will see clear continuation of the civilizations. Anatolia is coming from Greek Word "Rising Sun". City names also will have certain continuation in Turkiye. So many different ethnic groups and religion has its own share in this soil. Anatolia has been a passage way from east to west during last 7000 yrs, and still today this process continues. So if someone really says we own this city and we own the soil, he needs prove with science and with archeological sites. I hope we all can be friends with this background, even If I say I am Turkish, still you can find the DNA of Puduhepa and Hattusili III in our bloods. Yes I grew up in Sivas and Study in Sivas. I feel responsibility of at least last 4000 yrs of Anatolian History. [Ceyhan, 17:18, 07 October 2007]

Two dates in history section[edit]

Something is wrong with this phrase: ... until the city was conquered by the Turkmen Danishmend dynasty (1155–1192) after the Battle of Manzikert in 1071.

The dates 1155 and 1192 have nothing to do with Sivas or Danishmends. But these dates maybe the throning and dethroning dates of Seljuk sultan Kilij Arslan II. The editor must be more specific. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Needs more expansion regarding the destruction of the city under Timur[edit]

Timur played a cruel trick on the city elders. He told them that not a single drop any defenders' blood or those who defied him would be spilt if the city surrendered. With that news, the city duely capitulated. Timur then had the 4,000 Christian Armenian troops among the Ottoman Army buried alive. The city's Christian population were bound and drowned in the city moat, and children were trampled to death by charging horsemen.

References [1], [2] and [3]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.206.134 (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

theory[edit]

Everyone says: The name "Sivas" is the Turkish version deriving from the name Sebasteia. / but maybe the name of Sivas was "Swassa" (at the time of Hittites!)Böri (talk) 12:55, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Madımak Massacre[edit]

Is this a tourist guide? The massacre must be mentioned, I am writing it up and will maintain it. Hocu (talk) 07:20, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Postal cord and erea code in Sivas[edit]

Postal code in Sivas is 58000, Area code in Sivas is +90 346 (talk) 10:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.244.64.58 (talk) [reply]

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To add to article[edit]

Basic information to add to this article: what is the demographic breakdown of the population of Sivas today, and how many Armenian people live there? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 06:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why are there Armenian and Greek alternatives for a city whose population is 90% Turkish?[edit]

Why? Just why? Why aren’t there Turkish alternative names of Greek and Armenian cities in their respective countries? 2A02:A466:AEAD:1:70CE:C666:33DF:CE57 (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was historically named for a Grecian emperor ("The name of the city is a truncated form of its Byzantine Greek name Sivasteia from the Koine Greek name Sebasteia (Σεβαστεία), meaning that it was named in honour of an emperor using the title Sebastos, the Greek equivalent of Augustus") and historically has been full of Armenians. This is all in this article, if you'd like to research further. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 20:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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