Talk:Son jarocho/Archive 1

Archive 1

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This ENTIRE article has been written to give you a point of view focusing primarily on the movimiento jaranero perpective. ITs ridiculous and should be re-written, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siquisiri (talk • contribs) 05:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

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I have made one addition and one alteration to this page.

The addition: I felt it was useful to point out the role each instrument plays in the music (i.e. the Jarana providing the harmonic base, over which the Requinto plays the melody).

The alteration: Requintos come with 4 or 5 strings, with the 4 string version being the most widespread and traditional, and the 5 string version being a relatively recent addition. I have never heard of a 6 string requinto. They may or may not exist, but if they do they are rare in comparison to the other versions. I felt it was unhelpful to say that Requintos have six strings, and that it wrongly suggested that a 6 string version was somehow standard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josecho (talk • contribs) 13:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

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   I too have made additions and several alterations regarding the first post of "Son Jarocho" I have no idea who the person is that's responsible for that first post but I don't believe this person is very familiar with Veracruz or "Son Jarocho" My alteration corrected this persons incorrect writings which stated that Son Jarocho has been confused with having African rythems/roots. The instruments the person mentioned are correct however, as most writings regarding Mexico, the African contribution is left out as the person demonstrated in only mentioning the Spanish instruments. No mention was made of the Marimbol which is a variation of the African Mbira or thumb piano or the Marimba which is directly from Africa and the use of the Cajon ( a box with a hole at the rear and while sitting on it the fron side is played by slapping the box creating percussion. The call and response of the "Son Jarocho" is yet another African contribution never mentioned in this first persons post There was a point in the persons post which lost me. The person wrote something about timbales but that sentence did not make sense so I left it alone. Timbales are not found in Africa. Timbales have a connection with African percussion but they were developed in Latin America. I attempted to correct this persons definition of "Jarocho" but it was not allowed. The term Jarocho was a spanish doragatory term reffering to African slaves in Mexico and the children of African /Indigenous blood. The term meant, during colonial Mexico, "Dirty or Filthy Pig. The people of Veracruz now use the term as a term representing pride. It NOW, Today sends the message, yes, you once called us Dirty Filthy pigs but we have overcome, We are still here.....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.127.86.229 (talk) 02:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC) 

Some of the above statements have to be clarified. The maribol and cajon ARE NOT traditional instruemnts within the jarocho tradition. They are newer contributions that stem from the Movimiento Jaranero Movement. While many group use them now, they are in no way a traditional jarocho instrument.

In Mexico, we have our own cajon, called cajon de tapeo. The cajon that you see in Jarocho groups is a Peruvian cajon.

--Opus88888 (talk) 17:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)