Talk:Stevan Hristić/Archive 1

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@Jerome Kohl: why shouldn't we include an infobox here? Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 23:29, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Have you read Wikipedia:WikiProject Composers#Biographical infoboxes? The reasons are succinctly given there and, in particular, because it is a sensistive issue for many editors, there should be editorial consensus before adding an infobox.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 01:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I did. There are no "sensitive information", for example his birth and death place are not clearly presented and we would have a nicer (profile picture) of the composer added. We could also remove his birth date from brackets and copy it to infobox. I honestly do not see a problem with that. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 10:25, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Your browser must have taken you to the wrong page. There is nothing at all about "sensitive information" in the position statement linked above. You might care to see the kind of ire this issue can raise by looking at, for example, Talk:Gustav Holst#Infobox? or Talk:Frédéric Chopin/Archive 13. Since there seems to be a technical issue getting in the way, I will quote the three main points and the recommendation following them:

1. They often give trivia undue emphasis and prominence at the head of the article
2. They tend to become redundant (by duplicating the lead)
3. They can, conversely, become over-complex and thus vague, confused, or misleading, often compounding errors found elsewhere in the article, e.g. by confusing style and genre, setting forth haphazard lists of individual works, or highlighting the subject's trivial secondary or non-musical occupations.

They [that is, the members of the Wikiproject] think it is normally best, therefore, to avoid infoboxes altogether for classical musicians, and prefer to add an infobox to an article only following consensus for that inclusion on the article's talk page.

So, by merely copying information from the lead to the infobox, as you suggest, you run squarely up against point number 2. Your suggestion of a better portrait has nothing to do with infoboxes. Any number of illustrations may be added to articles that lack infoboxes, for example, Luigi Nono, Béla Bartók, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:50, 16 June 2020 (UTC)