Talk:Sukhoi Su-30/Archive 2

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specification section is a bit misleading

The specification section lists the maximum speed of the Su-27PU/Su-30, the absolute earliest variant that lacks canards. As stated elsewhere in the article, Su-30s with canards (which vastly outnumber those without) have a maximum Mach number of 1.75. This means at the tropopause (which is what I assume is meant by "high altitude, that region from about 10km to 20km is where Mach 2 equals 1320mph as listed) the maximum speed of most Su-30s is 1155mph, or 1858km/h. It's hard to find actual citations for this because many sources simply cite Mach 2 as the maximum speed and I suspect neither UAC nor Rostec are in a hurry to correct any public misconception in favor of a lucrative export product. I do know that Janes has the correct number for the SM, as it's cited in this Aviationist article: (https://theaviationist.com/2018/01/26/myanmar-to-buy-six-sukhoi-su-30-generation-4-combat-aircraft-from-russia/), but I do not have access to All The World's Aircraft to confirm the citation. Anyone who does and is reading this should consider changing the specifications section to Su-30S or SM, as they're more widely used and likely what users will be actually looking for, rather than specs of the early Su-27PU that isn't in frontline service anymore.

Accidents section modified

27 February 2019: Pakistan claimed to have shot down Indian Air Force Su-30MKI. Squadron Leader Hassan Siddiqui flying JF-17 was credited for the kill. India denied the event.

This paragraph was added in the accidents section. This is not really an accident. Its a claim made by Pakistan and its subsequent rejection by India. This news has already been added in the su30mki page. If still you feel that it is correct, then I suggest adding one more reference where India rejected the claim. Quanta127 (talk) 07:34, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

A shot down is clearly not an aviation accident. Claiming it is an accident is misleading and not helpful, imo. -Fnlayson (talk) 12:39, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Users section modified

Armenian Air Force has been added to the list of users; 4 delivered with 8 more on order. ArmenianSniper (talk) 08:52, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

The note in the Infobox clearly states: "Only THREE (3) 'more users' here. Listed by total number of aircraft in service." Armenia isn't in the top 4 users. so it's not listed there. It is already listed in the main Operators section, however. - BilCat (talk) 10:07, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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Bangladesh Air force don't order Su-30 yet.

Bangladesh airforce don't order Su-30 or any other MRCA yet. "World Air Forces 2020" don't have latest information about our airforce. Bangladesh airforce will buy 16 MRCA not 8/12. Link: http://unb.com.bd/m/category/Bangladesh/steps-taken-to-address-irregularities-in-biman-minister/42858 Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 09:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I already send mail to Flight Global. They confirmed that "Order of 8 Su-30 of Bangladesh Air Force will be removed from "World Airforce 2021" list. This is their response to my mail, "Please note that the information used in the 2020 directory is now one year old. The previously included Su-30 order has already been deleted by our data provider". Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 07:07, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

As per my email and information form SIPRI,Flight Global removed Bangladesh as a operator of Su-30 from their "World Air Forces 2021" list.So I am right about the information that Bangladesh Air Force is not a future user of Su-30.Please don't add Bangladesh as a future user of Su-30 again.Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 07:57, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Sergei Kosik

Sergei Kosik has been captured probably once, different names are used. Xx236 (talk) 09:38, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

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