Talk:Syrian people

Syrians refers to Syriacs???[edit]

They are totally different words with different origins. Just do a simple google search and you will see that the word "Syrians" never refers to "Syriacs". Why do we have a dab page for people who confuse words? Should we dab "Iraq" and "Iran" because they sound/look alike? Yuber^(talk) 21:43, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Syrian traditionally refers to Syriac-speaking Christians not ARABS.סרגון יוחנא 14:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True. Until the foundation of the Syrian Republic, Syrians unambiguously referred to the Suryāye, now sometimes called Syriacs in English. This page should therefore be a disambiguation. --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 16:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Um, WTF? Syrians in today's language means a citizen of Syria, whether they be Western Neo-Aramaic speaking Christians, Arabic speaking Muslims, Arabic speaking Christians, or even Kurds. There is NO suggestion in the redirection of "Syrians" to "Syria" that it only refers to Arabs. This page should DEFINITELY not be a dab page. Yuber^(talk) 22:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Syrians not Syriacs[edit]

Syriac is the name of the language. Syrian is the name of the people. The church called for changing to Syriacs so as to distinguish themselves from the Arabs of the Syria.סרגון יוחנא 14:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Syrians means people from Syria, NOT SYRIACS, NOT ARABS, NOT KURDS, just people from Syria. It's not that difficult of a concept. Yuber^(talk) 22:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your missing the point. Aramaic-Speaking Christians not found in Syria, ie Iraq and Turkey are sometimes called Syrians. You can't deny this, just look at the google results. Chaldean 03:32, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any of these results to show? Yuber^(talk) 20:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo! "Syrians"

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=syrians&ei=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&fr=moz2

The third highest ranking hit...

http://www.google.com/search?q=syrian+christians&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Google "Syrian Christian"

Yahoo! "Syrian Christian"

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=syrian+christian&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2&x=wrt

You're googling Syrian Christians, not Syrians, and you have yet to prove how these refer to Iraqi and Turkish Christians. I'll give you another day. Yuber^(talk) 22:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dude read read the articles and who the hell made you dictator of Syria online?

Show me specifically where in the article "Syrians" refers to Christians from Iraq and Turkey as you claimed. Yuber^(talk) 23:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Syrians means Assyrians[edit]

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Syria Therefore, this should be a dab page. — EliasAlucard|Talk 01:56 26 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's not quite true. It is true, however, that the people who have for centuries been called Syrians, are also referred to as Aramaeans, Chaldeans, or Syriacs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benne (talk • contribs)

Actually, Syrians means residents of the country of Syria. And there already is a dab page at Syria. Etymology is irrelevant.Yuber^(talk) 19:50, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Syrians is ambiguous. It was a name used by Assyrians from the beginning, It only began to be used by Arabs when Arab state of Syria was formed. — EliasAlucard|Talk 22:07 15 Sept, 2007 (UTC)

When did I say anything about Arabs. Syrians, in its most popular modern-day usage, refers to residents of the state of Syria. It doesn't refer to Arab residents of Syria, or Kurdish residents of Syria, or Christian residents of Syria, or Armenian residents of Syria, or Turkoman residents of Syria, it just refers to residents of Syria. I don't see what the problem with this is. Assyrians don't want to be referred to as Syrians because of the modern-day usage. Etymology is irrelevant and only belongs in the disambiguation page. The page itself should be a redirect. Yuber^(talk) 20:30, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Facts remain: Syrian means Assyrian. Have you even checked Syria#Etymology? We have been known as Christian Syrians for the past 2 millennia. In our own language, we call ourselves Suraya/Suroyo (derived from Assurayu). This page, should be a dab. A dab page is cheap anyway. — EliasAlucard|Talk 22:49 15 Sept, 2007 (UTC)

Another fact: “The Assyrians, who were afterwards called Syrians, held their empire thirteen hundred years.”[1] Sorry, but historically, Syrian has always meant Assyrian. Just because there's a state nowadays called Syria, doesn't change this historical fact. — EliasAlucard|Talk 05:18 06 Oct, 2007 (UTC)