Talk:Vrhovci (Ljubljana)

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Sluice/weir[edit]

Is this a sluice or a weir?

@Doremo: I wonder whether 'Bokalški jez' should be translated as 'the Bokalce Sluice' or 'the Bokalce Weir'. I thought it was a 'sluice' but you have corrected it to 'weir'.[1] In my opinion, it seems more like other images in commons:Category:Sluices in Ljubljana than in commons:Category:Weirs in Slovenia. In addition, Mali Graben seems to be more often described as a creek (potok) than a river (reka), so the definite article is redundant. --Eleassar my talk 12:12, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The gated devices to the left are sluices, but (if I recall correctly) most of the structure to the right providing the majority of water flow to the Mali Graben is a weir. I haven't been out there for a while. A weir will sometimes be equipped with a sluice gate to help regulate water levels, and the water into the Gradaščica is controlled by the sluice gate to the left. Regarding the article, if the word creek does not appear in the name then the name still has the (the Mali Graben), and if the name contains the word, then that would be the reason for the not to appear (i.e., Ø Mali Graben Creek, or fully anglicized: Ø Little Creek). It's lexically triggered; the non-use of the depends on the presence of Creek, otherwise the pattern defaults to general articulation for watercourses (cf. the Ohio River and the Ohio, or, less often, Ø Tumalo Creek and the Tumalo, as here). Doremo (talk) 13:13, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a picture from another angle, showing the weir (at left). Doremo (talk) 13:24, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thanks for the explanation. --Eleassar my talk 13:46, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]