User talk:71.105.204.124

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I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Draft:Neville Farmer, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Hi. The article is so problematic that I moved it to draft space. Please add reliable secondary sources, not promotional or video links. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 21:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to update the Wiki page for Neville Farmer (who I most assuredly am not) and am very new to all this and am struggling with the manual coding of the page. I see your comments about various things I have added in the past day but have no idea how to get the site back online. Can you just undo everything to take it back to where it last was? 71.105.204.124 (talk) 21:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just told you I moved it, and it's at Draft:Neville Farmer. No, I'm not restoring your edits. You may not be Neville Farmer but it seems pretty obvious that you have an interest of some sort in it. Drmies (talk) 21:21, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your quick response. So his Wikipedia site in limbo now I guess. How does it see the light of day again? Or is it basically gone for good? 71.105.204.124 (talk) 21:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's not his site. You can make an effort to figure out what exactly this is--an encyclopedia, not a repository for resumes--and work on that article. Above, I mentioned what I think it needs. Wikipedia:Drafts may have some advice. Drmies (talk) 22:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I feel really terrible that I broke that page and will at least undo the stuff I added. As you can probably tell I don't know what I'm doing and I just want to make things whole again. Presumably others will add better quality content than mine over time, but I don't understand how they would do that if the page is offline and can't be found? Is it now my responsibility to get it approved and "back online" and do I have to work with you on this? Like the expression "you break it, you bought it" and I just want to do whatever I have to do to undo my damage and then get the heck away from here! Sorry I'm not trying to be annoying... 71.105.204.124 (talk) 23:14, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No one broke anything, but nothing will happen here until you declare your conflict of interest. No, the page is not "offline"--I really think you should get much better acquainted with what Wikipedia is and how it works. Drmies (talk) 23:31, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I now appreciate how much more I have to learn about how Wikipedia works... As to the conflict of interest I'm not him, nor a relative of any kind, nor being paid to add things, just someone who met him on a couple of occasions. I hope that clarifies things. I figured this might be a good way to learn more about how Wikipedia works by working on a topic I am sorta familiar with. But I remain very worried about being responsible for fixing what I've done. All I want to do is get it back to an acceptable state and get the heck out of here..... 71.105.204.124 (talk) 23:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So what I'm hearing is that yes, there is a kind of a conflict of interest, even though you claim it's minor. It's not a big deal but you just need to acknowledge it in the way it's outlined in the policy, but I can't tell whether you read that policy. As for the article, or now the draft, it was terrible to begin with, and it's going to take serious work to get it right: it needs reliable secondary sources, as was recognized in 2020 already. Drmies (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]