User talk:Aciram/Archives/2015/May

Proposed deletion of Amanda Kerfstedt

The article Amanda Kerfstedt has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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This is not a living person at all: she died in 1920. Besides, the article was just created. There are plenty of references, I just hadn't the time to ad them before you placed that themplate in the article. --Aciram (talk) 15:46, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Ottoman princesses

We got rather stuck here with two RfDs of articles on Ottoman princesses which arose as a result of potentially incorrect page-moves by @Retrieverlove:. As the creator of Hatice Sultan (daughter of Ahmed III) will you be able to help? Deryck C. 21:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your question. This reflects a problem which as been going on with the articles of the female members of the Ottoman dynasty for years. As I am interested in history and particularly women in history, I have added, started and watched several such pages, and when it comes to Ottoman princesses and Valides (sultan's mothers), there has been problems for years with users who renames them without discussion, ads information without any references and sources, expands them with unnecessary non-relevant material, and many other things. When I first noticed it, I tried to fix it, but after a couple of years, I simply grew tired and stopped watching these pages. The impression at that point to me was that they were edited by a user/several users with some kind of agenda. Some one with knowledge and time should, for the sake of Wikipedia, take the time to watch the articles about princesses and especially the mothers of and wives of the Ottoman sultans, and prevent all these nonconstructive editing. Pages should never be moved without prior discussion, which happens with these articles: information should not be added without any sources, which often happens here; information with references should not be removed out of bias, which also often seem to happen with these articles. If these articles are watched, I am sure many such edits would be found. I think the reason that this is going on for so long is that the female members of the Ottoman dynasty is a rather unknown and obscure subject, but the problems with these articles should really be corrected. They need to be watched. As for me; for all my interest in women of history, I do not have the time to involve myself in discussion and debate in Wikipedia, and that is why I had to give up engaging myself in this group of articles. But I that hope these problems will be dealt with. I wish you good luck!--Aciram (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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