User talk:Benisek00

Welcome!

Hello, Benisek00, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Kaisershatner 16:30, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Martin (professor)[edit]

Thanks for your note. See:[1] Also, unless you have some kind of proof, I'd be careful about assuming anything about people's real life identities based on their activity on WP. "Avocadop" is "Avocadop" unless proven otherwise. Kaisershatner 22:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please remember to sign your posts to talk pages et al. with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks, Kaisershatner 22:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And finally, reviewing some of your edit summaries, such as ("REVERT Avocadop, dont behave like a child. If you want to discuss changes, you are welcome to do so in the talk page. Changing to the unedited page you keep will reflect poorly on this page and on you". That's a bit close to violating WP:NPA. I would refrain from personal commentary about other editors, even if you find their conduct frustrating or in violation of the spirit of the encyclopedia. Best, Kaisershatner 22:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your note. I removed your characterization of the Truth Institute as "anti-semitic." Certainly ADL views them as such, but that's a POV and one that isn't relevant to the article's subject in my opinion. I removed the unsourced assertions from that section as well, I don't think you had originally written them. They violate a few WP guidelines about verifiability and "weasel words." Finally, about guilt by association, I agree with your view and removed that from the section. If you read the section, all it does is state (1) Martin appeared at a revisionist conference, and (2) Martin defended a revisionist who asserted the Holocaust never occurred. These are both factually correct statements. The article draws no conclusion about his willingness to do those things that he actually did, and imputes no guilt to him. It merely states the facts, that he did those things, and leaves the reader to decide what that means. Therefore, I agree with your view that "guilt by association" is not a valid criticism of this section. Thanks for your continued work on the article. Kaisershatner 15:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Benisek, I think I may have been unclear. I agree that the TEI is anti-semitic in tone and intent, especially after the link you provided. The point I was trying to make was that describing it in a WP article as "the anti-semitic TEI" is not really WP:NPOV (in my opinion, I could be wrong on this). For example, members of the Nation of Islam might view the TEI as "the truth-telling TEI," as disgusting as that may be to you or to me. I generally solve this problem the way I have in other parts of the article, by trying to remove adjectives and replace them with facts. Something like "the TEI, which is published by the man who wrote The Synagogue of Satan, a work that asserts Jews are agents of the Devil..." accurately describes what the TEI is but without forcing your or my viewpoint on the reader. I do share your perspective, I'm just trying to keep the writing as neutral as possible. Thanks again. Kaisershatner 03:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]