User talk:DiagramLover

A belated welcome![edit]

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! Justi yaya 19:18, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you :-) DiagramLover (talk) 19:19, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop[edit]

Please stop with the graph spamming across Wikipedia. By a quick could nearly half of all your edits have been reverted at this point, so you should stop and ask yourself why. It seems multiple editors have the same issues with the graphs you're creating and adding as I have. They have no context, no scale and don't tie into the article in any way. Without a scale they're just a bunch of colours and don't convey any quantifiable information. And even so I'm not even sure what information they're trying to convey. So to avoid the disappointment of having all your work deleted, I would stop and start talking with other editors about these graphs on the articles and if they are appropriate. Canterbury Tail talk 13:52, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not fully sure what revert you are referring to. I have just checked. You have reverted on insertation in the article Northern Ireland. I have been uploading similar charts for many countries for quite some time now. Many users have thanked me for doing so. The scale is available via the Commons page. Just click on the chart. Maybe you have overlooked that information? DiagramLover (talk) 13:56, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The scale should be on the chart. Readers should not have to go off elsewhere to try and figure out what the chart is telling them, just like any other image. If the chart does not convey the info, and isn't contextual to the text around it in the article, then it is not useful. " the color scale varies from ±2.6 standard deviations of the annual average temperatures between the years mentioned in the file name" is not a useful descriptor of the chart in anyway to most readers. Canterbury Tail talk 14:12, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These bars represent standard deviations in relation to average temperatures, not 0.1 degrees or something similar. I have even selected these types of charts because they are known for being self-explanatory. Many users appreciate these types of diagrams over other representations of temperature change. I acknowledge that images are always a matter of taste. Feel free to generate other figures that are even clearer. But currently these figures are the best ones that are available via Commons, and to be honest, I find them quite clear. DiagramLover (talk) 14:17, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the United Kingdom article, on the basis we only have a couple of paragraphs in #climate and the change in temperature over time in the last 200 years is only one of many metrics that could be graphed, and not really mentioned in the text and not representative of 'Climate in the UK' (honestly, the black background probably makes it appear more imposing than it might otherwise.) I have added your chart to the Climate of the United Kingdom article in a relevant place as it seems to fit better there, and there's more space for different approaches at visualising data.