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Kurdwiki, good luck, and have fun. --Dougweller (talk) 05:50, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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  • Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Rafy talk 18:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In particular, the three-revert rule states that:

  1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.--Rafy talk 20:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stop editing my Kurdistan section on Assyrians in Iraq, as Kurdistan is a part of Iraq, and since there is Iraq in the title I'm more than entitled to put it in there, besides you edit Assyrians issues into every Kurdish topic.

Your addition to Assyrians in Iraq has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. The content was copied/pasted from [1], [2] and [3]--Rafy talk 20:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Context changed, giving a brief summary using my own words.

Edit warring at Hakkâri[edit]

See WP:AN3#User:Kurdwiki reported by User:Rafy (Result: ). If you will respond there and promise to stop warring on the Hakkâri article and elsewhere, you may be able to avoid a block. Promotional editing in favor of a single ethnic group is unlikely to escape the notice of other editors. We expect our articles to be neutral and to reflect all the available information in a balanced manner. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 01:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edjohnoston, I'm trieng to be neutral please notice that I am not denying any genocides or massacres, instead I'm just removing the emphasis on ethnic groups which were insignificant in the Islamic ottoman army.

That's your personal opinion. If you also want to offer it as Wikipedia's opinion, you need to get support from others, or find a reliable source. Though the sources are not online, someone claims that 'Kurdish irregulars' is in the sources. EdJohnston (talk) 14:17, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Google books is full with claims from
  1. this book I quote:"The Kurds, morever, were getting more and more out of hand...Kurdish tribes had already attacked and sacked villages in... just north of the Hakkiari Mountains...".
  2. Here we read: "A plan was set in motion for the ethnic cleansing of Hakkari... He had fresh reserves that could march up from Mosul and he mobalized the local Kurdish tribes."
you can read more about this events here and many other sources about the history of the Kurds in general.--Rafy talk 00:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdwiki, a complaint about you is still open at Wikipedia:AN3#User:Kurdwiki reported by User:Rafy (Result: ). An admin could still decide to block you for edit warring. Your continued reverting at Shanidar Cave does not improve your case. Make your arguments on the talk page and convince the others before reverting again. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 13:44, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of WP:AN/EW report[edit]

Hello Kurdwiki,

This is an automated friendly notification to inform you that you have been reported for Violation of the Edit warring policy at the Administrators' noticeboard.
If you feel that this report has been made in error, please reply as soon as possible on the noticeboard. However, before contesting an Edit warring report, please review the respective policies to ensure you are not in violation of them. ~ NekoBot (MeowTalk) 16:28, 5 June 2011 (UTC) (False positive? Report it!)[reply]

Edit warring at Hakkâri and Shanidar Cave[edit]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

The complete report of this case is at WP:AN3#User:Kurdwiki reported by User:Rafy (Result: 24h). EdJohnston (talk) 16:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided sufficient evidence on the Shandiar cave discussion page for my edits. I believe I'm being unfairly targeted by propagandists.

You seem to be a brand-new account (June 2) which was created to insert a pro-Kurdish point of view via warlike edits. If you want us to extend good faith, you have some persuading to do. EdJohnston (talk) 17:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes well the way I see it, these people can insert anything they want to Kurdish pages and when I tried to add informative data to their pages (Assyrians in Iraq) they first complained of 'Copy right issues' and once I corrected it, they branded it as 'Propaganda' and so I don't see how this is fair... I used valid evidence and as Kurds are also a part of Iraq and the title is 'Assyrians in Iraq' why can't I post information that is related to Assyrians, Kurds and Iraq? You can check for yourself here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Assyrians_in_Iraq&action=history

If my case is not neutrally dealt with I would like to contact another mod/admin as I honestly believe I'm being targeted here, and no offense to you as I'm not one to judge.

The block notice (above) explains how you can make an unblock request. EdJohnston (talk) 17:17, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How can I contact another mod/admin? this is really unfair and I'm being targeted, I would like to present my case (with evidence, I have screenshots) to another admin? Thanks.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Yes well the way I see it, these people can insert anything they want to Kurdish pages and when I tried to add informative data to their pages (Assyrians in Iraq) they first complained of 'Copy right issues' and once I corrected it, they branded it as 'Propaganda' and so I don't see how this is fair... I used valid evidence and as Kurds are also a part of Iraq and the title is 'Assyrians in Iraq' why can't I post information that is related to Assyrians, Kurds and Iraq? You can check for yourself here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Assyrians_in_Iraq&action=history. I feel like I can't add information that are related to me and my region becuase I'm out numbered here and my information is branded as propaganda even though it's relevant and backed up by valid sources and there are people with anti-Kurdish agendas that will stop at nothing but block any valid information that contributes to the articles.

My reason for Editing the cave article and although are valid, were completely ignored by the Mod/Admin dealing with the issue:-

Northern Iraq is a big region and not all of the north is Iraqi Kurdistan, this cave however is in Erbil governance which is found in Iraqi Kurdistan.

Iraqi Kurdistan is recognised by the Iraqi constitution: (http://www.uniraq.org/documents/iraqi_constitution.pdf) The Erbil governance is clearly recognised as part of Iraqi Kurdistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan)(http://www.unpo.org/article/536)

Therefore, it's accurate to state that it's found with in Iraqi kurdistan, and using pre-2005 articles are not valid becuase the Kurdistan region was officially recognised by Baghdad in 2005. Also you can see that new sources from 2010 state that it's in "at a site known as the Shanidar cave, in the Kurdistan" (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/The-Skeletons-of-Shanidar-Cave.html)

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

  • the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
  • the block is no longer necessary because you
    1. understand what you have been blocked for,
    2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
    3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information.  Sandstein  18:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Please note that edit-warring (repeatedly reverting others) is forbidden no matter whether you are right or wrong. Your unblock request does not address this. See also WP:NOTTHEM.  Sandstein  18:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • the block is no longer necessary because you - I agree with the points under this section, however I still would like to know why I can't add information related to the subject 'Assyrians in Iraq' while others can add information on Kurdish related topics?

The website is not RS nor does it provide a NPOV, their article was taken from http://www.kurdish.com/kurdistan/religion/judaism.htm (now offline) which is clearly a biased which makes rediculous mistakes as of calling Babylon "Kurdistan"!. Please provide reliable historical references for your edits and DON'T remove well-sourced material.--Rafy talk 12:40, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Funny, I got the source from your edits from another section on wiki :) such a propaganda machine, yet you have nothing :)

The same page contains sections referenced by a RS ("The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia") about the existence of Jews in Arbil, as well as other not-so-reliable sources such as the one you used for your claim.--Rafy talk 13:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]