User talk:Mac Dreamstate/Archive 4

Ernie Terrell

Hello.
You reverted my editing.
In Ernie Terrell#Professional career, "In his early career, Terrell defeated some good contenders, including Cleveland Williams (Terrell won the rematch by decision after losing to Williams in their first fight by knockout), Zora Folley, and future Light Heavyweight champion Bob Foster. But he's best remembered for his challenge to World Heavyweight Champion Muhammad Ali, on February 6, 1967—a bout in which he was badly beaten.

Ali was scheduled to fight WBA champion Ernie Terrell (the WBA stripped Ali of his title after his agreement to fight a rematch with Liston) on March 29, but Terrell backed out and Ali won a 15-round decision against substitute opponent George Chuvalo."
Predecessor is Muhammad Ali.
--Poro789 (talk) 01:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

[1] Sorry.--Poro789 (talk) 01:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Edit

Please explain to me how my edit at Luis Ortiz is edit warring? I only deleted the zero that the other guy added. Seriesphile (talk · ctb) 14:22, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Joe Frazier

Hey just to let you know i didnt write what was "In Popular Media" on Joe Frazier.. i saw it said "He played in The Fight of the... i only changed it to "fought" to make sense i didnt realise it shoulda been removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GanjaCaliphate (talk • contribs) 19:21, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Hiatus of Eva Marie

Hey there, Thanks for supporting my last edit to Eva Marie's hiatus content. as I've separated the paragraph of story of her hiatus. I thanked you for further improving some Mistakes before I got blocked from editing wikipedia for violation of editing Biographies of Living Person here's the link.[2] Regards Broken nutshell (talk) 16:57, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

A Friendly Word of Caution

Your last comment on User talk:Pacbradley2 was pushing the envelope on WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF. Tone it down please. Thanks. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:11, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Noted. I don't usually throw around such insults, but when a disruptive user who's been on WP for three years repeatedly messes up my talk page, it certainly tests my limits of staying cool. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 00:13, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

HELP

Please can you warn this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tegbo to stophis contribs.. he keeps adding numbers at the side of boxers records for some weird reason even tho after every win its numbered lol most frustrating is he doesn't finish them Jessie magdelano was fixed but Moises Flores and Ricardo Lopez are still ruined GanjaCaliphate (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2017‎ (UTC)

No check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moises_Flores / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_L%C3%B3pez_(boxer) // If you scroll down to record and see what he has done, every other boxers wiki is the same but he is changing certain ons but not fully, leaving them disjointed and out of place..

Most/ALL have example /

15-0 (insert name) etc

BUT HE FOR SOME REASON IS DOING

25 25-0 (insert name) etc

There is no point making new boxes/spaces to number when the number is made eveytime after a fight and it must be timeworthy because he gives up lmao GanjaCaliphate (talk) 20:28, 12 March 2017‎ (UTC)

Ahh yes i see now, okay no worries GanjaCaliphate (talk) 21:53, 12 March 2017‎ (UTC)

Tony Bellew situation

Hi, I see you having difficulty wordking the lead section on Tony Bellew. I don't think it needs mentioning. It's not mentioned in Vitali's lead or Mayweather. Just keep it at the bottom of the page, on the champions table. --Mahussain06 (talk) 07:16, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Amir Khan (boxer) page edit

I would like to know how my contribution to the above page is disruptive and defamatory? I posted links to reliable sources of what I added.BoxingGuru78 (talk) 14:07, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Ward/Kovalev II

Hi, I found the information here:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/04/andre-ward-sergey-kovalev-fight-ring-magazine-light-heavyweight-championship/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.253.115.254 (talk) 18:01, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Ali Raymi Conspiracy Theory

Great job on the article, did a little bit digging back in 2015 & decided I don't want to get involved further more. Ali Raymi was #6 ranked light flyweight in April 2015 ranking, then he was dropped to number 11 after his death. I tried to contact a person who has knowledge about this issue (he claimed Raymi bribed WBC, WBA & WBO), promised to show me solid proof of the bribery but he was derailed by big personal problems, got of the grid & I never heard of him again.

As of facts, these are actual facts, we can investigate them, but we can't deny that they are facts, pretty much like every conspiracy theory. Deepestate (talk) 00:44, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Michele di Rocco

Hi Mac,

The section at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotations, in the first paragraph of Original Wording, "If there is a significant error in the original statement, use [sic] or the template [sic] to show that the error was not made by Wikipedia. However, trivial spelling and typographic errors should simply be corrected without comment..."

My opinion is that most typos, including this one, are insignificant, so "sic" wasn't worth adding. Either way, WP shouldn't be propagating mistakes.

Ira

Ira Leviton (talk) 01:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

That is a very good question to ask, and I hadn't thought of asking. (Can you get them to cc me or forward the answer?)

By the way, I see you're on Wikiproject Albums - I make sure to double-check songs titles in databases because there's always a possibility that they're misspelled intentionally. At least it's easier to check song and movie titles than some other art forms - I just leave those alone because there's sometimes no way to know.

Ira

Ira Leviton (talk) 02:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

I put my two cents into the discussion yesterday, and accordingly reverted the word back to 'decison' using the 'sic|hide=y|reason=x' template. I think your reasoning is better than mine for an encyclopedia. Anybody who cares enough to try to correct the spelling error can see that in the code and will then know that the error is in the source, and isn't a Wikipedia editor's fault. I'll use this method going forward, and take my hat off to you.

Ira

Ira Leviton (talk) 13:40, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Allan Holdsworth

Mac,

Sadly the edit announcing Allan's passing has been confirmed by his family. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361803263942657/

I have therefore reverted the Allan Holdsworth article to the previous edit which unfortunately was in fact correct.

Lew Sheen

Big Lew 17:47, 16 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lew Sheen (talk • contribs)

Lineal Champs

Yeah, I'm usually not all that interested in editing Wikipedia, so apologies for my lack of form. Your message alerts me to the importance of using an "edit summary." I edited that page after no one responded to something I posted in "Talk" a couple days ago. Anyway, am I wrong in thinking that the only source for lineal champs is TBRB? Or is this just a completely subjective category? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theazor99 (talk • contribs) 01:50, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Ha--if this is an edit war, I surrender. I just assumed that when I filled in an "edit summary" everything would be clear and the world of Wikipedia would be thankful that I corrected misinformation :-). I realize the lineal championship is a "mythical title," but I thought TBRB was the source for determining who gets it. To open it to subjective reasoning and "consensus opinion" (without being able to cite consensus opinion in any way) seems to invite the Wikipedia editor to become the authoritative source for awarding it, and that seems off to me. And for what it's worth, TBRB explains their rationale on their "Feedback" page. They just stripped Alvarez about a week ago when he said in a press conference "I am not a middleweight anymore." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theazor99 (talk • contribs) 02:17, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Joshua

How is it copyrighted? it's free to use under public domain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Famalambreezy (talk • contribs) 05:05, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Edit: Is it this? "print publications or from other websites" i only put it under a website so i had a reference what if i put it under public domain because how is the photo you have now free but this one isn't? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Famalambreezy (talk • contribs) 05:08, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Ahh my mistake then dude it was my first time doing a photo and i wanted it clarifying no problem, hope you watch the fight this weekend should be a banger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Famalambreezy (talk • contribs) 16:18, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Camren Bicondova

Wiki rules state it's okay to provide links if "The linked content is controlled by the subject". While it says no to social networks, that seems to imply it means fansites, etc? Are we sure that we cannot link to an OFFICIAL/run by the subject social network? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llsocial17 (talk • contribs) 16:01, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Ahhh, okay. Thank you for clarification. --Llsocial17 (talk) 22:27, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Lineal title

Hey dude if you can please check out the look of Golovkin and Alverez "professional record" and tell me if im right, Alverez only holds the Ring title and ALOT of people seem to not know that.. people keep changing Lineal to be there too but tbrb haven't said anything on this? I know "the man who beat's the man" mean's it eventually will be awarded to the winner whether that's announced before or after the fight but i need help keeping the trolls away or if im even right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Famalambreezy (talk • contribs) 21:15, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Claressa Shields

On a unrelated note i apologise profusely for you having to clean up the overlinks after me lmao my bad, now something that bothers me is how Claressa Shields record is on her wiki.. Katie Taylor is 5-0, Nicola Adams is 1-0, Marlen Esparza is 2-0 etc.. This is not only the "new pros" but also non title holders.. title holders in the womens games also have legit pro records. Now what annoys me is that Claressa Shields has a 2-0 record and "Apparently" a 78-1 amateur record that 1 guy seems hellbent on keeping overall on her wikipedia. maybe he is just a determined american who doesn't understand the concept of boxing wikipedia records and seems butthurt anyone dare challenge to change his edit lol im not the only person to attempt to put it straight. he says it is an "Overall" record which is fair enough but like the mens he can surly put this in the "early life" / Amateur section.. ALSO his "referance/links" clearly state "First amateur loss frustrates Flint boxer Claressa Shields, she expected a victory." and "Flint's Claressa Shields wins easily in pro boxing debut in Las Vegas". which is astounding he can stick to this 80-1 record.. any thoughts? Famalambreezy (talk) 20:14, 13 May 2017‎ (UTC)

Chris Benoit

Regarding your April 21, edit to the Chris Benoit article, it I removed the diminutive "Chris" from his name per: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies/2017 archive#RfC: Clarification and/or change in how common hypocorisms (diminutives) are handled on first use of name. It's not needed as it's just short for Christopher, and the articles name is Chris, thus, it's not needed as it's clear. ^{(talk page stalker)} CrashUnderride 02:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Good to know.. although admittedly I've grown attached to those diminutives—I just find them fun from a formatting standpoint, and they look 'right' to me for whatever reason. ;-)  I'll be a bit sad to see them phased out, but no have problem with the RfC. What I'll do in future is not add them to articles where they're not present; if they are present, I will continue to apply MOS:LEADALT wherever possible (namely "The quotation marks are not put in bold.") Mac Dreamstate (talk) 02:29, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Well, shame on you. :P lol jk. I never understood the point of diminutives in the lead, I mean, it's kinda like, "duh!, that's what the articles name is." The first time I saw someone say anything about diminutives was because of an article named Dave Smith, and the lead (lede, which ever) read "David "Dave" Smith". Literally the definition of redundant and not needed. lol ^{(talk page stalker)} CrashUnderride 22:33, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

About newspapers titles

Hi, I'm writing here for a doubt concerning newspapers titles: for example in this should I translate in English (being en.wiki the Wikipedia which I edit) or the Italian one is right ? In the case I linked, p.e, the title would become "Tyson - Tucker World punches in Las Vegas". Thank you ! --Sean Ago (talk) 11:00, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Boxing

What I meant by "hilarious" was your citation of proper boxing format - which you yourself decided on recently, based on the history there. That's a bit silly, as the 'rule' never applied before. It's a "Notes" section. I think appropriate notes surrounding the bout apply, not necessarily ones limited to titles. That doesn't mean let's go overboard, keep it simple, of course. -- Erroneuz1 (talk) 23:57, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Margaret Court

Macmillan and Oxford English Dictonaries allow for the word "retired" to apply to a sports player who has ceased to play the sport, without also meaning that the person has retired from all professions. So in my opinion, the previous version of the sentence you changed was fine and clear to readers, especially in the context of the next sentence about Court currently being a minister. What do you think? Hi from a fellow editor who loves good writing! Soniamaddox (talk) 07:17, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! I understand your campaign to preserve usage in a changing world! I am a bit amused that "retired/former" is a specific bugbear of yours. I have my own. Like the word "literally" – I cannot abide by its changed usage ;) Soniamaddox (talk) 00:29, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Mike Tyson

I read your source. Per your reference, are you claiming he did 'not' convert to Islam, or that his Muslim name isn't Malik Abdul Aziz? And how can we be sure this particular account is completely accurate? DA1 (talk) 18:44, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm very glad to hear you're open to discussion. Personally, I think it would have been very useful if there was a 'primary source' with him actively noting that his Muslim name is (or isn't) "Malik Abdul Aziz", since there are a lot of secondary sources that claim that to be his name (we can't just put all our weight on that one source). But interesting you do note that it was his lawyer who made the initial denial; because I have an article from 1993 (prior to his release) where the quote actually comes from:

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/02/sports/sports-people-boxing-tyson-s-name-is-still-mike-tyson.html

"Yes, Tyson is attending classes on Islam -- mixed with math instruction and other subjects -- but he's still Mike Tyson, his lawyer said.
"He's not changing his name and not converting," said the attorney, ALAN DERSHOWITZ , who said he spoke to Tyson yesterday afternoon. "Someone is circulating false stories. He told me, 'When my Islamic teacher comes to me, I talk about Islam; when you come to me, we sometimes talk about the Jewish faith.' "

The lawyer claims that he not only isn't changing his name but that he isn't converting either. This latter fact, we know to be false. Since as you noted, he's admitted being a Muslim, there's photos of him praying, and he made pilgrimage to Mecca in 2010. I think this facet taken as a whole, puts doubt on the source as unreliable tbh. –DA1 (talk) 19:09, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

I think that's a good source you have there. I managed to find an NTV news report (and accompanying article) in Russian covering that story. In the video, he's formally introduced as "Malik Abdul Aziz" to the crowd. I don't think the fast-forward works but watch it till the 22 second mark for the footage. http://www.ntv.ru/video/73193/ –DA1 (talk) 14:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Talkback Docklands Light Railway rolling stock

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Boxing Rec Question

Just curious to know why it is Rounds and Time don't have there own sections and why do multiple fighters have different looking boxing records like Donald Cerrone JMichael22 (talk) 20:48, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for helping and letting me know, I was curious about it JMichael22 (talk) 21:00, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Money Belt

According to the WBC the major boxing promotion that is a legitimate Title they are fighting for. So you might wanna do your research into it before making a decision on which titles are legit or not look into it because according to them. This is a sanctioned Title fight JMichael22 (talk) 14:41, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

In this article it will explain it to you The WBC Money Belt JMichael22 (talk) 14:42, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Okay now your not making any sense I don't see anywhere in those sections about not putting the Money Belt in there. it a legit Title created and promoted by the WBC. now your trying to portray this decision as if you have the final say about the matter. That is not what Wikipedia is about. JMichael22 (talk) 14:53, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

As I've asked already "WHY" are these decisions made what makes one Title okay but not the other, that is the answer I'm chasing here JMichael22 (talk) 15:04, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Edit to Anthony Joshua

You recently reverted my edit to Anthony Joshua where I added Nigeria as part of his nationality. I've reverted it back. Joshua was born to Nigerian parents, Lived his early live in Nigeria and holds a Nigerian passport, so he's fit to be called a Nigerian citizen. This is also backed up with references already contained in the article. If there's something else I'm missing I'd be very glad to know. Thanks ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 12:57, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Pacquiao article.

To be honest, I think this IP sock is paying me a little too much attention. I think my contributions to the talk page are just going to create my motivation for that sock IP to be active, so I might step away for a moment and let others comment. I will revert that IP though. Spacecowboy420 (talk) 14:20, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

@Spacecowboy420:  IP blocked Home Lander (talk) 14:45, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

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Erik Skoglund

You think you could take a quick look at Erik Skoglund's lead and clean it up? Fpwlada (talk) 17:57, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Roy Jones

This is the address to the foxwoods resort casino 350 Trolley Line Blvd, Mashantucket, CT 06338 if you do your research you'll find out where it's located JMichael22 (talk) 23:29, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Mashantucket

You said "Mashantucket is in the town of Ledyard; same as Brooklyn is in NYC, etc. See" according to the this source Official Foxwoods Resort Casino Website they have the location of the Foxwoods Resort Casino and no where on the location does it say Ledyard as the location of the venue. it clearly shows a map of the location and Ledyard is not where it is located. Also I wanna point out one last thing in other fighters record when they fight at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, NY then it shouldn't be that way according to you. if your statement above (Mashantucket is in the town of Ledyard; same as Brooklyn is in NYC) made sense. that means your saying Mashantucket is within Ledyard so you place Ledyard as the location of the Venue then you say Brooklyn is the same as NYC so why wouldn't you put New York City as the location of the venue instead of Brooklyn for the Barclays Center. Right there your reasoning falls flat I provided a legitimate source of the address and location of the Foxwoods from its official website at this point I find no more reason for this edit war. Iv provided the source while you haven't provided anything but a statement that has been defeated JMichael22 (talk) 01:43, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Also want to provide another source from BoxRec Foxwoods Resort Casino they have the venue as being in Mashantucket JMichael22 (talk) 01:51, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Source

Where in the source of the official website does it show Ledyard as being the address JMichael22 (talk) 02:57, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm going to provide you with every source that states the Foxwoods Resort Casino is in Mashantucket, CT JMichael22 (talk) 03:03, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Foxwoods Resort Casino Facebook Page

Official Foxwoods Resort Website Casino Contact Information

Talk Page

I would like to let you know I've brought the situation to the talk page and I've provided more sources that state the correct location of the Casino. I hope you go and check out the sources at the moment I have four but plan to add more (Also Danny Garcia's page states he fought at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn so you might wanna go correct that according to the belief you have about Brooklyn and NYC). JMichael22 (talk) 03:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Luis Ortiz

Hi, could you take a look at Talk:Luis Ortiz (Cuban boxer). I have updated all the profile, I was wondering if it was okay to remove the BLP sources template. Could you take a look when you have time. Cheers. --Mahussain06 (talk) 15:24, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of World Boxing Federation

Hello Mac Dreamstate,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged World Boxing Federation for deletion, because it seems to be an article that was previously deleted by a consensus decision.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

James (^talk/_contribs) 20:37, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Foxwoods

Hey User:Mac Dreamstate I just wanted to inform you that I began a Part 2 discussion of Foxwoods Location in the Boxing Project Talk Page I provided I a new source as well to begin the discussion JMichael22 (talk) 00:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Can you help me

I would truly appreciate your assistance, I was wondering if you knew how I should I go about requesting a move of a pages title JMichael22 (talk) 20:49, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

User:Mac Dreamstate Thank You very much I greatly appreciate it JMichael22 (talk) 21:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

More Help Please

How do I archive my talk page JMichael22 (talk) 22:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

User:Mac Dreamstate Truly thank you JMichael22 (talk) 20:10, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Adam Copeland

I purposed a name change for the Edge (wrestler) page to be changed to his real name Adam Copeland. If you could help me out and take a look at the Talk page. I placed all the sources gave my reason for name change and give me your opinion on if you believe I've made a valid argument for name change or not JMichael22 (talk) 20:17, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Foxwoods Commercial

Foxwoods Commercial an official commercial from Foxwoods stating Mashantucket, is this not a credible source either? JMichael22 (talk) 20:57, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Foxwoods Commercial 2 another commercial from Foxwoods JMichael22 (talk) 21:06, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Thank you for giving me guidance on creating an archive on my talk page and how to request the renaming of a pages title! Thank you so much i greatly appreciate all of your help JMichael22 (talk) 02:43, 23 December 2017 (UTC)