User talk:MarcRuttenMRBVNL

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:MANHART Performance

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A tag has been placed on Draft:MANHART Performance requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://manhart-performance.de/en/company/about-manhart/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Dear 10mm socket,

I don't understand why you consider this to be a copyright infringement. The majority of the page is not a direct copy, the majority of the Wikipedia page is not a copy of the About page on the MANHART Performance website.

There is one section which connects to the history of the brand which was rewritten accordingly to make sure it is different in words from the historical time-line of the brand.

am not sure how you want me to rewrite that section even more to make sure it is factually correct and inclsude the right information about the history of the brand.

If you want me to complete use different words to say the exact same thing I will try to do my best, but it will still touch on the same history of the brand which is what is mentioned in the time line of the About page on MANHART Performance.

It is not like I can rewrite history or a different time line of events in connection to the brand. This is how it went.

Please guide me on what you want to see and I get it done, but all in all I don't believe this is copyright infringement when the one person who wrote both texts on both platforms is inserting it. And I have made that clear in my account, I believe.

I am looking forward to your reply.

Kind regards,

Marc Rutten MarcRuttenMRBVNL (talk) 10:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Dear 10mm socket,

I have altered the history section of this page and I hope it is more too your liking. Let me know your thoughts on it and I hope it is fine like this.

I hope you would be able to delete the Deletion tag on this page, since at this moment there is no reason to consider deletion in my opinion.

If any other changes need to be made, then please let me know and I will do so accordingly, but I would require guidance from your end on the changes required. At this moment, I think all is fine. If not, let me know. :)

Kind regards,

Marc Rutten MarcRuttenMRBVNL (talk) 11:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Despite the rewrite, the history section was still a close paraphrase which is still a copyright violation. If the company wishes to release the text under a free license, then you can follow the steps at donating copyrighted material. Otherwise such copyrighted content cannot be used, and any further copyright violations will result in you being blocked from editing. -- Whpq (talk) 15:10, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

See my user page. I don't like paid-for editors, I don't help paid for editors, I'll do everything I can to highlight and revert bad practice by paid for editors, such as the blatant copyright violation in this case. 10mmsocket (talk) 17:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know that the hours I spend were useless. You can delete the information plus the page, and I will remove my account here. What an utter waste time is this place.

How would you write the company's history correctly without using the correct details of the company's history? An Apple is an Apple, not a pear. But clearly on this platform you need to make it look like a pear else it is a copyright violation of telling the world the apple is an apple, which makes sure you either not tell the truth or not tell the complete truth.

This makes the information presented useless because you are not allowing people to share information that is not widely available across the web, which in this case is the history of a company that is only written down on 1 single page on the web...

In my 20 years as a journalist, I have never ever heard such rubbish as what you guys have written here tonight. All the best with your platform. Good bye! MarcRuttenMRBVNL (talk) 18:59, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Mark sure the cat has been fed, then turn off the light and close the door on your way out. I am glad that you can now see why paid-for editing isn't a thing Wikipedia takes kindly to. 10mmsocket (talk) 19:04, 19 March 2023 (UTC)