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Hello, I have been trying to turn this draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Louie_Holzman into an article for the professional footballer Louie Holzman. Unfortunately it seems like reviewing editors will now only accept these sorts of articles if there is extensive press coverage of a player. I notice that you have created many articles of players shortly after their debut, with limited press coverage, including several of Holzman's Reading team mates. Can you give any tips on how to best demonstrate notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCIAG (talkcontribs) 20:55, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Benjamin Girke for deletion[edit]

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Thomas Kastanaras[edit]

Can you explain how any of the sources provided to source this BLP are not routine sporting news? BusterD (talk) 14:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Also @BusterD:) @Ortizesp: I've marked the article as unreviewed (it was automatically patrolled because you are autopatrolled). I couldn't see exactly how WP:NBASIC is passed- the sources mainly appear to be routine announcements depending on non-independent quotes, the only independent source you stated, "Kastanaras feiert Bun­des­liga­debüt", is just five sentences and definitely not WP:SIGCOV. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 22:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I'm pretty sure the coverage on the page as it's stands is significant and beyond routine. Also, you shouldn't have sent the page to draft a second time per WP:DRAFTOBJECT.@BusterD:--Ortizesp (talk) 23:39, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I did not draft the article, that was a different reviewer. Given that another editor (JoelleJay added a tag which was removed by you, this one might need to have an AfD discussion to determine notability instead of another draftication. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 23:49, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to BusterD. Sorry for the confusion Ortizesp (talk) 23:51, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, my mistake. Feel free to ignore my reply's first sentence. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 23:55, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ortizesp is absolutely correct. I shouldn't have moved the page back to draft. BusterD (talk) 00:33, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am Kraig and someone has deleted my account ! 2A00:23C7:5AA9:CA01:8D18:742D:E3E:CD62 (talk) 23:30, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add this player plz[edit]

Sadek Abdellah el hadj Sadoki09 (talk) 15:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! Thank you for reviewing and accepting my draft!

I actually didn't receive any message on my own talk page, so I just found out about it by chance, but still, I appreciate it. : )

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De-proding articles[edit]

Why are you mass deproding football articles with "deprod, take to afd to see if references can be found" reason every time, even though multiple people endorsed the nomination, like at Nejc Plesec, meaning that at least two people checked for significant coverage and didn't find any? You will NOT save those obscure, semi-pro/amateur footballers with a few caps in professional leagues from being deleted, so it's just postponing the deletion for 7 days. How about you find sources for yourself, if you think there are any for such low-profile players? Snowflake91 (talk) 10:52, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No thanks, I have no obligation too. I'd rather defer the fact finding to others who may have expertise in the region instead of deletionists who have nothing to contribute. Ortizesp (talk) 23:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2023[edit]

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at Kieran Trippier, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. A video published by an unverified YouTube channel is not an adequate source for adding material regarding ethnic descent on a biography of a living person, see WP:UGC. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:21, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you come up with this part: "A video published by an unverified YouTube channel is not an adequate source for adding material regarding ethnic descent on a biography of a living person"? Addtionally Youtube is not listed as one of the pages you can't use on WP:UGC. Also, the Youtube page I listed is reliable for Jamaican news, the Youtuber has a personal connection with the Jamaican FA. Take a look at the channel, he often has interviews with Jamaican NT manager, international players, head of FA, etc. See here. @Mattythewhite: Ortizesp (talk) 05:28, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is the source considered reliable? Anyone can set up a YouTube channel and interview lots of important people, it doesn't *necessarily* make it a reputable source. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:11, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Liz: Hey, this and the below shouldn't be empty because of Thomas Dulorme. I don't see the option to "contest the speedy deletion", the prompt just says the below:
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Let me know how to properly proceed. Ortizesp (talk) 04:17, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Firew Solomon for deletion[edit]

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Close[edit]

Can I please ask you to close the section you created at Talk:Mpox. You missed the boat, and this is just wasting everyone's time, and has zero chance of getting anywhere. -- Colin°Talk 20:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, I think leaving the discussion open is fine. Looks like consensus is to stay where it is anyways and it might snowclose, and I'd rather have an admin close it off when they see fit. I myself, and assume tons of others haven't got the chance to be involved the discussion, so I think this is fair.@Colin: Ortizesp (talk) 20:35, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The fact you didn't notice it before isn't a reason to reopen a discussion that was very much advertised and discussed. Would you please consider striking the false statements you made, which I will assume were made having not read any of the previous discussion. Creating a notice like that and then making statements that are so clearly untrue is a bad look and if you think your case has merit, at least state it honestly. -- Colin°Talk 21:31, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ortizesp, claiming the move was "undiscussed" on the very same page where the discussion is recorded makes you look like an idiot. There is no shame in admitting you were wrong. I have made loads of mistakes in my time here as an editor.Graham Beards (talk) 21:56, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'll accept that I made the mistake of missing the discussion since there was no previous move request, but I hold that the move should have been discussed at WP:RM to begin with and not the talk page before moving. Ortizesp (talk) 23:05, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sergei Ždanov[edit]

I moved the sailor back to Sergei Ždanov for a couple of reasons. First the single source spelt his name that way and gave Sergei Zdanov as an alternate. Secondly, the single source was not sufficient to establish notability, it was just a listing, and so I redirected him to Sailing at the 1980 Summer Olympics – 470. If sources can be found to establish notability then his article can be restored. I then moved the footballer back to the undisabiguated title. At the same time I redirected all the people on the Sailing at the 1980 Summer Olympics – 470 article who finished below fourth as they also lacked evidence of notability. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 07:53, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Heritage[edit]

Please stop adding MLB players heritage to the intro. This is for the players nationality not heritage. Yankees10 23:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, in many cases they have to have the nationality to play for their teams. And the ethnicity-nationality is relevant to their careers, so can be included per MOS:ETHNICITY.@Yankees10: Ortizesp (talk) 23:31, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Except players can have numerous heritages. So no, there is as reason why we these have not been there before you started.-- Yankees10 23:35, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please discuss at WP:Baseball if you believe these should be added because they have never been before.-- Yankees10 23:38, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2023[edit]

Information icon Please do not remove Biographies of Living Persons PRODs from articles, as you did with Slaheddine Sebti, unless reliable sources have been provided. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the respective talk page instead. [1]  // Timothy :: talk  23:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's not required. I can just object and remove as per WP:PROD.@TimothyBlue: Ortizesp (talk) 01:37, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Actually one reliable source does need to be provided to remove a BLP PROD. @TimothyBlue: See Wikipedia:Proposed deletion of biographies of living people which says Unlike standard proposed deletion, the BLP deletion template may be removed only after the biography contains a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop. If you continue to remove PRODs of BLPs without addressing the issue, as you did at Moustafa Shakosh‎, you may be blocked from editing.  // Timothy :: talk  19:03, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove Biographies of Living Persons PRODs without addressing the issue, as you did at Nabil Al Shahmeh‎. and Effiong Eyoh‎. You have been warned by multiple editors now over multiple BLP violations.  // Timothy :: talk  19:05, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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You're not a mod, and respectively I haven't attacked anyone. Cheers!@TimothyBlue: Ortizesp (talk) 16:38, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Deprodding[edit]

@Ortizesp:, When deproddding articles like Héctor Martínez (footballer, born 1967), saying "deprod, take to afd to see if references can be found" in the edit summary will just essentially delete the article, its better to find sources and then add them to the article and then deprod. If you don't want to do that, don't deprod articles and I will find sources and then add them to the article and then deprod. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hey mate, I see where you're coming from but if I don't DEPROD they will 100 per cent get deleted, while there's a chance they're kept at AFD. I'd rather take the risk. And so many PROD's get even with people like us patrolling, I'd rather get more eyes on them. I look for references too and add them when I can, but I can ping you when I see one that is salvageable if you'd like.@Das osmnezz:--Ortizesp (talk) 16:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Ortizesp:, Im not saying don't deprod, what I mean is that when deprodding, bringing up AFD in the edit summary will make it more likely to get AFD, with will increase deletion likelihood, whereas if AFD is not brought up in edit summary, they may not think of AFD thus making it less likely to get deleted. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 16:28, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, I'll refrain from that. Although I'm fairly certain the PRODers watch the page and get notified. Ortizesp (talk) 16:35, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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BLPPROD notice[edit]

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Deprod without explanation[edit]

Hello,

I noticed that you removed a PROD tag that I placed at Académica Maputo but you did not provide an edit summary with any type of explanation, just "deprod". Would you mind explaining? Hey man im josh (talk) 00:12, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Same with List of naturalised international footballers. I noticed that a significant number of football articles that get prodded and de-prodded without explanation by you, and of the ones I've seen, most of them end up being deleted at AFD anyway. Please explain why you feel de-prodding is the best course of action. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:57, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Ortizesp:, I wasn't sure whether you noticed this talk page message or not so I wanted to send a ping to see if you could clarify. Communication is important on Wikipedia so I wanted to try to communicate with you before going further. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:37, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey mates, I'm just following this part of the PROD notice: "You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to deletion for any reason. Although not required, you are encouraged to explain why you object to the deletion, either in your edit summary or on the talk page". As far as I'm aware, I can remove the prompt as I wish and am not required to explain why. I'd rather see the pages get AFD where at least there's a proper BEFORE check and due diligence to see if the pages should be kept or not.@Hey man im josh:@Joseph2302:--Ortizesp (talk) 05:06, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we all realize that the PROD process is easily disrupted by design. What's being asked of you here is not that you stop deprodding articles you genuinely think could benefit from getting a few more eyes on them before deletion. It would simply be very considerate indeed if you could exercise the most basic level of due diligence before deprodding - something that I, and I'm sure Josh and Joseph also, do before slapping the template on there in the first place. Likewise, it would be equally great if you could offer an explanation for the removal that's not nonexistent or patently absurd. Not because the letter of the policy specifically demands you do that, but because not doing so risks antagonizing people and simply wasting everyone's time. Dr. Duh 🩺 (talk) 05:44, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Ortizesp, you are correct based on the text you cited from WP:PROD. You're absolutely within your right to do so, but leaving an edit summary saves everybody involved some time and wondering. I'd rather see the pages get AFD where at least there's a proper BEFORE check and due diligence to see if the pages should be kept or not – Is this your opinion on PROD tags in general, or just with the articles where you removed the tag? In the future it'd be helpful if you put that exact quoted text, or even something as short as "I think this should be look at at AfD instead". Most users don't place PROD tags all willy nilly, so it's a nice courtesy to communicate why you're doing what you did in those situations. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:12, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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About "Damián García" and "Damián García Graña"[edit]

Dear Ortizesp, hope you are doing fine. Well, maybe you are partly right: "Damián García" is quite a common name. But (an important "but"): Damián García Graña is a Uruguayan footballer, born in 2003, player of Peñarol; white the plain Damián García happens to be es:Damián García, also known as Damián Sáez Díaz, a Chilean footballer born in 2001, player of Deportes Temuco. So I will rename back "Damián García Graña", and afterwards properly write an article about Damián García/Damián Sáez Díaz. Regards, --Fadesga (talk) 22:46, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey mate, on the English Wikipedia we have to use the WP:COMMONNAME for the footballers, not their legal names. The convention is listed at WP:NCSP, so the footballer Damián García Graña would be disambiguated to something like Damián García (footballer, born 2003). Do you know what is the COMMONNAME for the footballer "Damián Sáez Díaz"? And do we know why his name changed?
If you could also expand the page using references on the Spanish Wiki it would be greatly appreciated.@Fadesga: Ortizesp (talk) 05:02, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What evidence is there that he has played for DR Congo? He appears to have been an unused substitute yesterday Sofascore. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 07:38, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hey mate, I think you're right. I jumped the gun based on a deleted tweet. I tried looking for other sources but couldn't find any regarding subs.@Jmorrison230582:--Ortizesp (talk) 17:57, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Matthew Taylor RM[edit]

I've had a re-look at the nomination that I've started to discuss yesterday and discovered I have made a couple of errors of the surname of this person. I have corrected those errors now but your edit is definitely appropriate for supporting, thankfully. I think I got confused with this name of a person of the same profession. Anyway, I'm a bit embarrassed that I've nominated to move to a wrong title but at least no-one else will come in and point out the error I've made. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:15, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Conduct[edit]

Hello Ortizesp. I have known you as a rather experienced editor on here. However, I am disappointed by your recent conduct on Antonella Roccuzzo's AfD, where you wrote Ridiculous nomination IMO. It's really not a "ridiculous" nomination, as WP:INVALIDBIO is a rather prominent point that needs to be addressed. Paul Vaurie (talk) 08:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I tend to agree that that line was a bit much. But I stand that INVALIDBIO doesn't hold because she's also a model and businesswoman per this, this, and probably 3 billion articles that could be found if a proper BEFORE was done. Ortizesp (talk) 16:29, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I also agree that comment was clearly over the line. In the future, it would be nice if you struck sections of comments like that; I would really appreciate your help keeping AFD civil. Also, in case you didn't notice, you accidentally updated another user's vote during that same discussion. (I reverted your update.) Suriname0 (talk) 19:35, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

José Fernández Santini[edit]

So I've recently noticed that you've reverted my page move of José Fernández Santini, citing refs in this page and Español page don't use maternal surname. Ignoring the fact that the Spanish wiki version includes his maternal surname, the following is a small excerpt of various websites that do use his maternal surname in at least the body paragraphs:

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Abhishek RM[edit]

Hello. I recently closed the RM at Talk:Abhishek. But I am not good with hatnotes. Would you kindly add appropriate hatnotes to these two pages? —usernamekiran (talk) 08:37, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Blackburn Rovers Players[edit]

Hi, I noticed you've done pages for Gamble, Atchison, Edmondson & Bloxham, I was wondering if you could do one for Sam Barnes who played in the 1st round? I've done players in the past but last few I've done seem to get deleted for some reason thanks Tom Tombury89 (talk) 17:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hey sure, made the page. It's a bit trickier now as pages get deleted more easily then before, but I try and make sure to get lots of coverage from different sources before making a page. If you can find 2 or 3 non-primary sources, you should be good. And the player Barnes looks very unlucky, at a glance looks like he'll have a short career. Hope he can keep on trucking.@Tombury89:--Ortizesp (talk) 18:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    excellent thanks for that, injuries haven't been kind to him, I didn't try to do a Sam Barnes one because I did a couple last season like Ash Phillips, Batty which got deleted Tombury89 (talk) 19:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, thank you for creating the article! I just wanted to note that I've edited out some parts of the "Playing style" section to preserve WP:NPOV.

Also, I think "Haj" is actually the player's surname, as I noticed in various occasions... Oltrepier (talk) 09:38, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hey mate, thanks for that. A bunch of Italian sources list him as Mohamed Anas Haj, with Haj as his last name, but other sources use this order as well. Anyways, I think you're right that Haj Mohamed is his last name, I remember seeing his father listed with the same surname but lost the reference. Cheers! @Oltrepier:--Ortizesp (talk) 17:16, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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GEISSBLOG[edit]

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Re: Eric Higgs (environmental scholar)‎[edit]

You pointed me to WP:COMMONNAME, but that is not a rationale for disambiguation to "environmental scholar"; rather we go by article title criteria. The disambiguation guideline says "natural disambiguation that is unambiguous, commonly used, and clear is generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation." That is, of course, Eric Stowe Higgs.[3] I'm most curious why you decided to revert this move. Viriditas (talk) 20:41, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Every reference and external link on the page lists him as just "Erin Higgs", omitting his middle name or middle initial. NATURAL only applies to names that the subject actually uses, AFAIK. Also, as an undiscussed and potentially controversial move I think opening a move discussion via WP:RM is probably best.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:58, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • I would never determine a common name based on the references used in an article. Editors are very selective when it comes to writing articles and often miss out on the larger literature. As you can see from his Google Scholar profile, Higgs uses his middle initial in the majority (but not all) of his published work.[4] I don't see anything controversial favoring a middle name over parenthetical dismabiguation; as far as I can tell, it is best practice on Wikipedia. Again, I'm curious why this niche topic interests you so much. Is this an article you have worked on? Viriditas (talk) 21:22, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I started a new discussion about this dispute here. Please participate. Viriditas (talk) 21:33, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry mate, I'm being pedantic which fortunately or not seems like a key ingredient for a Wikipedia editor. I appreciate you opening up the floor for discussion, as it seems different communities handle this differently. I enjoy working on disambiguation pages, and the page move just showed up on my watch list, I have no particular interest in this specific subject. Cheers! @Viriditas:Ortizesp (talk) 02:37, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Aleksandar Pavlović[edit]

Soccerway currently shows Aleksandar Pavlović as an unused substitute in the match against Galatasaray. His Soccerway profile shows that he has only been an unused substitute for the first team. Kingjeff (talk) 01:11, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced descent categories[edit]

I'm reluctant to give a templated warning to an editor of your experience, but I'd expect you to be aware of the requirement under the WP:BLP policy to provide a reliable source for any category, including descent categories, applied to a living person. Please see WP:BLPCAT, which says the case for each content category must be made clear by the article text and its verifiable reliable sources. I removed the descent category at Romelle Donovan the first time because your original source, playmakerstats (also known as zerozero and soccerzz, among other names), is considered unreliable for the same reason as Transfermarkt, because of its user-generated content. I removed it the second time because you restored it without a source at all. Please don't add it again without an accompanying reliable source. Thanks, Struway2 (talk) 21:23, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have an honest question: I know for an absolute fact he's of Kittitian descent. Is there no space for unsourced categories (or that exist with bad sources)? Like, the rule for unsourced material applies to contentious material and IMO this isn't contentious if that makes sense.@Struway2: Ortizesp (talk) 21:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, there really isn't. The policy means what it says: All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionablemust be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. (italics mine, bolding original) "The sun is yellow" is uncontentious; a 16-year-old person having ancestors from a particular country is certainly questionable.
Any personal information about a BLP that hasn't been divulged to and published by reliable sources doesn't belong on this site. That's actually quite basic to how the site works. Check out the five pillars of Wikipedia, the one about Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view, which says All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources, especially when the topic is controversial or is about a living person. Editors' personal experiences, interpretations, or opinions do not belong on Wikipedia. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 22:02, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, thanks for the clarification. I do come across some unsourced material that gets tagged as missing refs but remains unremoved, but I guess that's technically against the rules. Cheers! Ortizesp (talk) 22:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good afternoon, from Portugal,

SECOND time you move the page wrongly, as i explained when i moved it both "Costa" and "Pereira" are surnames, "Alberto" his first name. We have two very good English examples to illustrate this: it would be like naming Shaun Wright-Phillips just "Wright-Phillips", or Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain just "Oxlade-Chamberlain".

I am going to bring this at WP:FOOTY! Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 17:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey mate, looks like the COMMONNAME is Costa Pereira. Some older footballers were known just by their surnames, not by legal names. I've opened a discussion at WP:RM if you oppose, it's not the same situation as double barrelled English footballers. Ortizesp (talk) 20:36, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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