User talk:Robincie

Weston Reserve University

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thank you. Arbusto 03:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear Arbusto, Thank you for your message about the Weston Reserve University Page. I am sorry if my edit appeared to be vandalism. I am new, so I might not quite understand how to go about things. However, I do understand that vandalism in Wikipedia's policy is "any addition, deletion, or change to content made in a deliberate attempt to reduce the quality of the encyclopedia. The most common type of vandalism is the replacement of existing text with obscenities, page blanking, or the insertion of bad jokes or other nonsense." Also, I understand what Vandalism is not: "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism." Correct me if I'm wrong but the Weston Reserve University information that you posted seems to be quite biased and even slanderous. I feel that what I wrote is factual, can be verified and actually improves the quality of this Wikipedia page.

Please let me know your comments.

Robincie

The information comes straight from the Weston webpage and thus it sourced directly from Weston. Do not remove that material. If you wish to add to it fine make sure it is source. Do you have any connection to the "university?"

Also when claiming it has "accreditation" you must provide a source from a reputable party. This "university" is missing from the British education's webpage, UNESCO page, and the USDE webpage. If you view the article's talk page you will notice it has been discussed indepthly. Arbusto 21:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Arbusto, yes I have read the discussion. You are right to say that it is very indepth. However, perhaps the question is: "Is the information we are presenting about Weston unbiased?", also, "Is it properly focussed?", "Is it relevant?", and perhaps most importantly: "Is it slanderous?", what I mean to say is: Are we simply trying to present information that discredits the University or purposely makes it look bad? When it is said that Weston is unaccredited, what is meant by "accreditation"? Do we only consider a university to be accredited once it has UNESCO listing? Is this what accreditation means? As you know, Weston Reserve does have accreditation; it has the Royal Charter from Kuwait. I understand that you have repeatedly questioned this. Why? I would like to know what has led you to question the official document on Weston Reserve's website. If universities in Britain are accredited by Royal Charter, then why should we dub Weston University "unaccredited"? I understand that you feel that it is perhaps "unconventional" to be operating in a country other than the country from which Weston has received the Royal Charter. But, does this change the fact that Weston Reserve University is accredited? I have to say with conviction NO. I believe and hope that you will understand me by my saying that many of the comments on the discussion page are unproperly focused. Let's try to get to the bottom of this and present information that is more relevant. Please see my changes to the page and let me know your comments.

Regards,

Robincie

Two questions: 1) What is slanderous, that is, what is false? 2) What evidence-from a reliable source like Kuwait's ministry education or UNESCO's list- proves that it: A) Does have a "royal charter" for education B) The royal charter is equivlent to US accreditation. I ask because the website is in English, the schools name is in English, it offers no classes, has no faculty, and it only accepts US Dollars. I look forward to your evidence. Arbusto 01:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I am moving this discussion to the talk page on Weston's page please reply there. Arbusto 01:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

What personal ties do you have to Weston Reserve University

What personal ties do you have to Weston Reserve University? Arbusto 01:50, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Do you have ties to Weston Reserve University? Arbusto 08:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Second warning

You cannot add in uncited claims, especially when they go against consensus. Discuss the matter on the talk with evidence for your claims. Removing cited material and adding in uncited POV is not acceptable.Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Arbusto 08:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Arbusto, I appreciate your sense of humor (about the nonsense and sanbox). But, I think that I have discussed the matter extensively in the talk, but have not got any clear answers from you or anyone else. Do you feel that any of the information that I have posted is other than the truth? Do you feel that I am biased? What is it that is wrong exactly with the information that I have posted?

Thank you,

Robincie--Robincie 19:57, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Those are templates for people who remove cited material. You must provide a independent source for the accreditation claims.

Do you have ties to Weston Reserve University? Arbusto 20:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Third warning

Your removal of cited facts[1] is considered vandalism. Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

By the way, "bogus" is the exact quote (as cited) used by the Council on Higher Education Accreditation (the group that oversees higher education in the United States). Arbusto 20:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)