User talk:Steelmate

Welcome!

Hi! It's nice to meet another person apparently interested in Abkhazia here in Wikipedia :) You may want to take a look here. Please feel free to ask any questions if you've got them. Alæxis_¿question? 20:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Alaexis! Thanx for the warm welcome. Yes I am interested in Abkhazia events, Georgia and all Caucasus. Will be glad to be part of community ;) Steelmate 21:31, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Reliable sources

By their very nature, as open sources, other wikis, blogs, mailing lists and newsgroups are never reliable sources. Mayalld 17:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Please show me article in Wikipedia telling that. By the way, so Wikipedia itself isn't reliable source as well then? Steelmate 17:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:V touches on it (and is explicit that Wikipedia is not a reliable source), however, the definitive work is WP:RS in which we are told that the key to reliability is the degree of editorial oversight. That precludes any source that doesn't have firm editorial oversight. If in doubt, ask at WP:RSN Mayalld 21:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

test. Steelmate (talk) 22:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Request

Greetings Steelmate. Could you add an Armenian spelling to Abamelik? Thanks, --Kober^Talk 19:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kober, I see it was done already by someone else, but anyway I am not the expert in Armenian language so I couldn't satisfy the request anyway. Steelmate (talk) 21:56, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

NPOV

I added taht picture. and someone changed their name without source (NPOV). Where is my government document source??? Please correct it! Source:Massacre Exerted By The Armenian On The Turks During World War I government document here: [1] See the photos in a web site here: [2] also here: [3] see the malta law court with all the coutries' gov. documents here : [4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwl (talk • contribs) 16:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

you have a part of the fake. see the talk page!--Qwl (talk) 16:41, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

User talk pages

I see you have been conversing with Qwl on his user page. The appropriate place to do that would be his User talk page. Thank you — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 20:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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Artsakh

Hello Steelmate, just want to give you a friendly warning about editing the Nagorno-Karabkh related articles and communicating with Azeri editors. If you haven't seen the Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 arbitration case already, take a look and familiarize yourself with the remedy #2

• 2) The remedies of revert limitations (formerly revert parole), including the limitation of 1 revert per week, civility supervision (formerly civility parole) and supervised editing (formerly probation) that were put in place at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan shall apply to any editor who edits articles which relate to Armenia-Azerbaijan and related ethnic conflicts in an aggressive point of view manner marked by incivility. Before any penalty is applied, a warning placed on the editor's user talk page by an administrator shall serve as notice to the user that these remedies apply to them.

Atabek is clearly trolling and baiting you to say things that you wouldn't normally say. My advise is to ignore him, but if it continues you can report him to the administrators at WP:ANI. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.--VartanM (talk) 22:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Francis ;) But yes I know, the redirect was protected so I couldn't move it over there. Someone should put in a petition with an admin to have it moved. - Francis Tyers · 17:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Lacin

Greeting Steelmate, would you be kind as to put Armenian script in the Lacin (Berdzor) article. Thanks Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 01:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Italics

Generally, due to readability issues, we don't italicize languages that don't have a Latin or Cyrillic root. For example, italicizing Chinese or Thai would just render these harder to read, and so far as I know, is not a form typically used in those languages. The same applies for Armenian, which has no Latin or Cyrillic text in it. Azeri and Turkish do have a Latin root and are able to be italicized. --Golbez (talk) 22:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Steelmate. I didn't quite understand your question. If your question was whether Armenian has italics or not, then I'll have to agree with Golbez and say that no. As far as I can remember published Armenian books(those printed during the USSR) had no italics although bold is common. Actually the font used in publishing is already by default leaning and if there is a need to differentiate the word is typed either in bold or just.

Examples: printed in 1976, 1991 and 2003. Note that in the third picture most of the book is printed in the leaning font and not the stright. VartanM (talk) 02:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Well yes, in a way it is italics, but it was never used as it is being used in English. It was mostly used as a regular font, but now that there are hundreds if not thousands of different fonts its being changed. In any case, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. If I understood Golbezes reply correctly, he says that Azeri and Russian are in italalics, because they're latin script and we need to differentiate that from English. While Armenian has a script of its own and there is no need of differentiating. VartanM (talk) 06:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

The source you provided from Google books, says otherwise. I guess, know you have to talk to Golbez. VartanM (talk) 07:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't disagree, you have a source that says that Armenian has italics. Show it to Golbez. VartanM (talk) 08:13, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't really care. My position has been that we should only use italics with Latin/Greek/Cyrillic-based scripts, and Armenian is none of the above. --Golbez (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

CU on me

Parev. If you need my help regarding you new CU initiative, don't hesitate to drop me a line.:) I find it really amusing. Cheers, --Kober^Talk 20:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

You might find this amusing as well. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 05:10, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Armenian collage

Check out the Armenians talk page for a discussion on a new Armenians image collage. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 23:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for checkuser on user:Kober

Hi Steelmate. Please see the request here and fill in your evidence in the comments section and let me know when you are done and I will file it officially. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 04:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Collage

You win, we'll go with the html setup as opposed to one image. :) -- Aivazovsky (talk) 00:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey, would you mind if I made the new images for our collage (in PNG format)? -- Aivazovsky (talk) 21:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you think we could have larger images (150x237) but scale them down to 60x95 on the Armenians article? You can do that on Wiki. This would allow the reader to view these images clearly by clicking on them. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 22:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll stick with the smaller sizes in that case. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 23:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you remove your vote for Andranik? That way, we can expand the bold names to include 4 or more votes (with Levon V and Isabel Bayrakdarian). By removing your Andranik vote, this would show a concensus of 10 individuals for our collage. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 23:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Why do we need to create an ethnic box for the Armenians in Georgia? In my philosophy an Armenian is an Armenian. For example, I wouldn't consider Khachaturian or Raffi to be a "Georgian-Armenians" simply because they were born in Tbilisi/Tiflis. The Armenians don't need more than one infobox, really (save for Armenian subgroups like the Hamshenis). -- Aivazovsky (talk) 22:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

If we must have an infobox, then I disagree that we should have images of "famous Georgian-Armenians". Plus, the infobox is missing a listing of the number of Armenians in Abkhazia. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 22:46, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Because they are also famous Armenians. We can only have them in one infobox if we want consistency. The figures for the Armenians in Abkhazia are not difficult to come by. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 22:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

But does that mean that now we should create collages for Armenians in Russia, France, the US, and Iran? It'd be too much work. It's not worth it. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 22:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

All I'm saying is that it sets a precedent that would eventually entail a lot of unnecessary work on our part. Anyway, that's just my opinion. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 23:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I fixed up the coin images of Tigranes and Vartan. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 23:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

The main issue in this case would be Aznavour. We need a new image (see the Armenians talk page for further details). -- Aivazovsky (talk) 00:24, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Armenian Genetics

Specifically what are you guys' objections to the now deleted genetic relations info? What do you mean the hypothesis of Azeris and Armenians is unreliable? The source given was a peer reviewed scientific study conducted by an Armenian an Azeri among others, it was published in a reputable journal, what more can you expect? We shouldn't be deleting this information solely because we are uncomfortable with what it entails. Also, I don't see what is contradictory about the studies, Ευπάτωρ, please explain. Almost every other ethnic group has a genetics section, so should Armenians. E10ddie (talk) 02:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:

Done.-- Ευπάτωρ ^Talk!! 20:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

This might be of help for other types of taxes:Contains all the rates. Official site of the state tax service agency:[5].-- Ευπάτωρ ^Talk!! 21:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser

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January 2011

Please remember the neutral point of view policy when editing. Thanks. --John (talk) 22:46, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Indigo children. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:36, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Some stuff you should've learned by now

• "Truth" is not the criteria for inclusion, verifiability is.
• We do not publish original thought.
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New World Order (idea)

Why did you semi-protect New World Order (idea)? I don't see any vandalism there.   Will Beback  talk  23:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I see - you moved it from New World Order (conspiracy theory). I don't see a discussion of that move - it might not agree with everyone.   Will Beback  talk  23:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Moving with no discussion? And yes, I object to the move. Please revert and open a discussion on it. Ravensfire (talk) 00:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I've opened a discussion at Talk:New World Order (idea)#Page move.   Will Beback  talk  02:31, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Suspect original research from the editor, please help

{{adminhelp}} In the discussion of the article Water ionizer in section "Clinical Evaluation of alkaline-ionized water for chronic diarrhea. Placebo-controlled double-blind study." I requested a double blinded research study to be included as a reference. But editors declined basing their opinion that thts is a poorly done study. I believe it is an original research of a Wikipedian to judge a scientific research, and decline its inclusion because he thinks it was poorly done. Please help to arbitrate this topic. Also the article is full of shady resources which some Wikipedians are pushing to put negative spin on the topic, please help to give your opinions on the resources used in that article. Thank you!

I don't see any administrative intervention that is required here. I suggest looking at WP:Dispute resolution. -^Gavin _Perch talk 06:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

July 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Water ionizer. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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While I sympathize with your effort to get this theory about ionized water benefits wider publication through wikipedia, you really need to find articles in peer reivewed medial, chemical, or health journals that show what you think should be included. Anything else comes off as fake research and fake health claims and is not appropriate content for en.wikipedia. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 22:46, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Irene Zazians Armenian name

Hi, I needed Armenian form of "Irene Zazians" name for her article. Could you please help me? Bbadree (talk) 12:04, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Asian 10,000 Challenge invite

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